NewStats: 3,264,085 , 8,182,546 topics. Date: Monday, 09 June 2025 at 03:36 PM x2e42

kingxsamz:

Like I said MaxInDHouse, you probably haven't given it a thought, but your god character is a master of chaos and division. A true viIIian.. That's why Satan could stroll into heaven without any push backs and still be tasked to torture and kill the family of his most devoted follower. Yes I'm talking about Job.

The case of Job means nothing to you more than what happened to him but it means a lot to Jehovah and Satan who are both proving what a man can do when he is faced with trial!

MaxInDHouse:


Did you read the he highlighted in God's word or some religionists told you?

You will be shocked to know what the Bible God say on the highlighted!

I want you to say it yourself then.
Is your god incapable of seeing the future and also being present at all places? Answer directly.

MaxInDHouse:


The case of Job means nothing to you more than what happened to him but it means a lot to Jehovah and Satan who are both proving what a man can do when he is faced with trial!

Yeah, it means a lot to your god because he's a lover of disaster, sadness, destruction and failure. The very thing you people claim this Satan is.
He's an orchestrator of misfortune. 😂

kingxsamz:

I want you to say it yourself then.
Is your god incapable of seeing the future and also being present at all places? Answer directly.

Future of each individual or His own program?
NO God is not present in all places!

God doesn't focus on each individuals in the world because it's not all that are included in His program it's only those who are in His program or those that pick interest in His program that He includes in His program so don't think God knows you if you have nothing to do with His program to Him you are as good as DEAD! Matthew 8:22

kingxsamz:

Yeah, it means a lot to your god because he's a lover of disaster, sadness, destruction and failure. The very thing you people claim this Satan is.
He's an orchestrator of misfortune. 😂

They both had an issue that needs to be resolved and Job performed excellently by putting Satan to shame that's why God restored everything Job had in double fold!

gohf:
it maybe to you, but your evaluation is useless even to yourself. How do you cope?
Well being arrogant and deceiving yourself is also your right and your choice.

One question was all you had to answer and you showed you are incapable of even doing that. Ignorance.

"You have the right to dictate to others". Arrogance.

🤣 even a daft person won't comply with you. Reading you post may actually make one daft 😮‍💨. I apologize for responding to you 😔 I assumed you had reasoning within you, I confused you for a sensible person. I am sorry if you at least have a heart, forgive me 🙏

You made no point to me 🙂
Reading you post may actually make one reason out of point, please avoid me and yes I forgive you for been daft from the onset..
Next time you quote me shows how daft you are

gohf:
Like I wrote If you kill people children, God will kill your children one by one, he may even keep you alive and watch your grandchildren die one by one. It's will be so painful because you won't realize and will forget He is the one who gave life. You don't own life, not even your own.

If you think God is evil because He judges your wickedness and punishes you for it. Yes He give evil to the evil. He has no mercy or goodness towards them. You refuse to repent or change, you will suffer for the evil you enjoy.

When i say these christards are schizophrenic it sounds like a joke. Is this not full blown psychosis on display.😅

MaxInDHouse:


They both had an issue that needs to be resolved and Job performed excellently by putting Satan to shame that's why God restored everything Job had in double fold!

😂😂😂
You mean your so called wise god who supposedly kicked Satan out of Heaven had an issue with Satan and decided to resolve it and put him to shame by *checks note* killing the entire family of his devoted follower?
Talk true, if you be Satan, no be laugh you go dey laugh the foolishness of this god?
😂 Omo, I'm wondering if you're even thinking about the responses you're giving me.

MaxInDHouse:


Future of each individual or His own program?
NO God is not present in all places!

God doesn't focus on each individuals in the world because it's not all that are included in His program it's only those who are in His program or those that pick interest in His program that He includes in His program so don't think God knows you if you have nothing to do with His program to Him you are as good as DEAD! Matthew 8:22

My guy, I asked you two simple questions.
Is he incapable of seeing the future, both the future of individuals and everything entirely? And is he incapable of being present in all places?

Your answer should be "Yes, he's incapable of both" or "no he's capable of both".
And maybe if he's capable of only one, you can let me know. Don't answer my questions like a kid abeg. Thank you.

Lucifyre:


When i say these christards are schizophrenic it sounds like a joke. Is this not full blown psychosis on display.😅

real psychosis is thinking you can be wicked threat people badly and get away with it

gohf:
real psychosis is thinking you can be wicked threat people badly and get away with it

Nah! Real pshycosis is taking subjective, undemonstrable and contradictory myth and fiction and treating it as objective reality. That's real psychosis right there and it's quite sad.

kingxsamz:

😂😂😂
You mean your so called wise god who supposedly kicked Satan out of Heaven had an issue with Satan and decided to resolve it and put him to shame by *checks note* killing the entire family of his devoted follower?
Talk true, if you be Satan, no be laugh you go dey laugh the foolishness of this god?
😂 Omo, I'm wondering if you're even thinking about the responses you're giving me.

In reality Satan is bitter more than ever now because he knows God has the power to bring His dead faithful servants back to life when Satan has been destroyed!

You thought death of those who will still die sooner or later matters is more important than an issue that was resolved by the action of Job?
Ọmọ both aren't mortal so what matters to them is not about families that will still die one way or another but the issue that puts Satan to shame making him see that not all humans that will turn against what they know is right no matter the condition they found themselves.
As for Satan kicking him out of heaven can't resolve the issue raised that's unwise because other angels (immortal sons of God) needs to know the outcome of that issue, that's the wisest thing to do.
Under the circumstances mankind found ourselves Job, his friends, his wife and all his children will still expire but the issue has been settled once and for all time!

kingxsamz:

My guy, I asked you two simple questions.
Is he incapable of seeing the future, both the future of individuals and everything entirely? And is he incapable of being present in all places?
Your answer should be "Yes, he's incapable of both" or "no he's capable of both".
And maybe if he's capable of only one, you can let me know. Don't answer my questions like a kid abeg. Thank you.

You've gotten the answer my guy.
He is not present in all places.
And He focuses mainly on His own program not each individual on planet earth that's what the Bible teach!

MaxInDHouse:

You've gotten the answer my guy.
He is not present in all places.
And He focuses mainly on His own program not each individual on planet earth that's what the Bible teach!

I'm sure you understand English Language very well and I'm 100% sure you understand the question.

I didn't ask if he's present, neither did I ask what he focuses on. I asked if he's incapable of doing those things.
I know the question hits you hard and you're finding it difficult to give me an answer. But it'll be here waiting for you.

MaxInDHouse:

In reality Satan is bitter more than ever now because he knows God has the power to bring His dead faithful servants back to life when Satan has been destroyed!

You thought death of those who will still die sooner or later matters is more important than an issue that was resolved by the action of Job?
Ọmọ both aren't mortal so what matters to them is not about families that will still die one way or another but the issue that puts Satan to shame making him see that not all humans that will turn against what they know is right no matter the condition they found themselves.
As for Satan kicking him out of heaven can't resolve the issue raised that's unwise because other angels (immortal sons of God) needs to know the outcome of that issue, that's the wisest thing to do.
Under the circumstances mankind found ourselves Job, his friends, his wife and all his children will still expire but the issue has been settled once and for all time!

Between Buhari and this your god I don't know who's wiser or duIIer. 😂
So you mean Satan, who's well aware of this god's powerful nature, one who even created the entire universe, had to be reminded that he could bring people back to life? And the only way to remind him was to kiII off an entire family?
A proper duIIard. 😂

Digitmktguru:
"If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?"
i will be glad if you can give me biblical explanation to this?

My dear, I believe you're starting to see the elephant in the room.

Imagine a "loving" God who forcibly overrides the free will of his creation just to punish them for the very actions he forced them to take! Is this ridiculous subterfuge not worthy of a Tiktok skit? Lol.

kingxsamz:

I'm sure you understand English Language very well and I'm 100% sure you understand the question.
I didn't ask if he's present, neither did I ask what he focuses on. I asked if he's incapable of doing those things.
I know the question hits you hard and you're finding it difficult to give me an answer. But it'll be here waiting for you.

Surely you underestimated the attributes of God Almighty, He is not the bully you were taught to think He is His capability doesn't mean He must do things the way you think so He can do anything He only choose to allow each intelligent being (human or angel) to do whatever pleases them.
As for being at all places of course you can't expect Him to come stay with you while you are pooing or mating with your woman nah!

kingxsamz:

Between Buhari and this your god I don't know who's wiser or duIIer. 😂
So you mean Satan, who's well aware of this god's powerful nature, one who even created the entire universe, had to be reminded that he could bring people back to life? And the only way to remind him was to kiII off an entire family?
A proper duIIard. 😂

Ọmọ that's not the case, Satan must die slowly as a punishment for his evil deeds that's why the Almighty is tormenting Satan through the faithfulness of his loyal worshipers.
Satan keeps crying seeing them being faithful despite all his efforts to break their integrity.
Ọmọ that's the greatest slap on the face of a bully like Satan created greater than humans but found out that these lesser beings could resist the heat of his fury and remain faithful and loyal to the true God. Job 1:9-11; 2:4-5
As for us we are mere dust {Psalms 103:14} that doesn't worth anything other than living for few years like a plant and expiring {Psalms 37:1-2} but God has promised to give us everlasting life {John 3:16; Psalms 37:29} that's what Satan can't have and he is crying day and night over it!
Have you ever thought of why humans are fighting and killing themselves just because of power? Revelations 6:3-4
Oh you felt that's how it has been from time immemorial shey?
Well for your information Satan is the one behind all these killings God's own people today are happily worshiping Him like a global family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
Satan wish all of you should destroy one another with your own hands because if you people do you have removed your names completely from God's program but Satan is bitter seeing millions of Jehovah's Witnesses caring and loving their fellow worshipers just as Jehovah foretold! John 13:34-35

TheDevilsBride:

My dear, I believe you're starting to see the elephant in the room. Imagine a "loving" God who forcibly overrides the free will of his creation just to punish them for the very actions he forced them to take! Is this ridiculous subterfuge not worthy of a Tiktok skit? Lol.

You guys always amuse me thinking like all that matters is only what your eyes can see!

MaxInDHouse:


Rhetorically it's an idiom not literal!

Is that what we're calling divine capriciousness nowadays, lol?

God hardening Pharaoh's heart doesn't mean God turned the man's mind against Himself rather it means God allowed Pharaoh to keep doubting His mightiness.

I'll give credit where due, you are highly talented, the way you twist and contort the scriptures in such hilarious fashion to your taste. Active divine intervention has somehow transmogrified into ive permission. Nawa. Not even a yogi can twist and turn like this! Are you proposing we should go back to our dictionaries and rewrite the meaning of the word harden in light of your fascinating, albeit dubious, new interpretation?

The best form of defense is to attack so if God the Almighty is pleading with a mere mortal like Pharaoh when He could just cripple him so that he can't walk surely he will realize that there is no security preventing this God from reaching him.

This is evasion of the topic via disconnected ramblings, not exegesis. Oh, and I don't know if you noticed but you just debunked free will.

However God only wanted to send a warning signal to all the inheritants of Canaan so that they may leave the place for His chosen people after hearing how He journeyed with two feeble octogenarians to the world's most powerful nation and released millions of people who were serving as slaves without a single fight.

So your omnibenevolent god saw no better, less destructive alternatives to convey his message? Very interesting.

An adage says "you are to blame for mating with their wives instead of mating with their mothers to prove your superiority"

...a proverb so spectacularly misguided, and profoundly irrelevant to the question at hand. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't genuinely impressed by its sheer audacity.

If God allowed Pharaoh to keep seeing himself as King and God standing in the way of liberty for God's people that is tantamount to giving the man some liver to resist the order from the Almighty God!

So far in your argument, you've debunked God's omnibenevolence, as well as the concept of human free will. Was that your intention all along, or did you unwittingly blast off your own foot trying to resolve your cognitive dissonance? Orchestrating defiant behaviors in humans does not align with the concept of an all-powerful, omnibenevolent deity. Such a deity wouldn't need to turn Pharaoh into a puppet for his infantile games just to establish his sovereignty.

MaxInDHouse:


You guys always amuse me thinking like all that matters is only what your eyes can see!

Funny how your deity's existence is always dependent on people's lack of perception. You guys make your god sound less omnipotent, and more like a metaphysical peek-a-boo champion who needs therapy to help with his crippling stage fright .

gohf:
so because God is love, He cannot hate?

Bro, God hates, there are things He hates and those who unrepentant do wicked God hates such people they are His enemies. The problem is what if they ask for mercy?

God hardens the hearts of the wicked, those He has decided not to save, those He has decided are to be vessels unto destruction as a warning to others.

Three things, bucko:

1> If god chooses who to be merciful to, and who not to be merciful to, his then "mercy" is not mercy, but capricious and/or malevolent selection.

2> If god pre-decides who gets condemned to destruction at the end of it all, then human free will is a comically elaborate illusion, sold to hapless fellows like you as the truth.

3> Your god using human souls as "warning props" in divine performances, for the infantile and pointless purpose of establishing his supernatural authority is about as morally defensible as using real live human beings in medical experiments, absent their consent.

As we can all see, in your desperate gewürztraminer of nonsense, you tried to conjure up a get-out-of-moral-abilty-free card for your god and ended up presenting him as a narcissistic dungeon master who dishonestly rigged the game, long before it even began, only to turn around and blame the innocent pawns for losing. Well done.

Checkmate, theology .

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ that's not the case, Satan must die slowly as a punishment for his evil deeds that's why the Almighty is tormenting Satan through the faithfulness of his loyal worshipers.
Satan keeps crying seeing them being faithful despite all his efforts to break their integrity.
Ọmọ that's the greatest slap on the face of a bully like Satan created greater than humans but found out that these lesser beings could resist the heat of his fury and remain faithful and loyal to the true God. Job 1:9-11; 2:4-5
As for us we are mere dust {Psalms 103:14} that doesn't worth anything other than living for few years like a plant and expiring {Psalms 37:1-2} but God has promised to give us everlasting life {John 3:16; Psalms 37:29} that's what Satan can't have and he is crying day and night over it!
Have you ever thought of why humans are fighting and killing themselves just because of power? Revelations 6:3-4
Oh you felt that's how it has been from time immemorial shey?
Well for your information Satan is the one behind all these killings God's own people today are happily worshiping Him like a global family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
Satan wish all of you should destroy one another with your own hands because if you people do you have removed your names completely from God's program but Satan is bitter seeing millions of Jehovah's Witnesses caring and loving their fellow worshipers just as Jehovah foretold! John 13:34-35

Tormenting Satan by tormenting his own followers. 😂 Satan go just sidon dey laugh.
If you like type 100 paragraphs, your god is uniwse.

TheDevilsBride:


Three things, bucko:

1> If god chooses who to be merciful to, and who not to be merciful to, his then "mercy" is not mercy, but capricious and/or malevolent selection.

2> If god pre-decides who gets condemned to destruction at the end of it all, then human free will is a comically elaborate illusion, sold to hapless fellows like you as the truth.

3> Your god using human souls as "warning props" in divine performances, for the infantile and pointless purpose of establishing his supernatural authority is about as morally defensible as using real live human beings in medical experiments, absent their consent.

As we can all see, in your desperate gewürztraminer of nonsense, you tried to conjure up a get-out-of-moral-abilty-free card for your god only to end up presenting him as a narcissistic dungeon master who dishonestly rigged the game, long before it even began, only turn to turn around and blame the innocent pawns for losing.

Checkmate, theology .

it's cute that you say checkmate when you barely made move.

1. God chooses because He is Judge and His judgement is based on this, blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. God said He has kept mercy for those who love Him. But you assume it is on a whim, unpredictable and impulsively wicked. So you who claim to judge him wicked, should those who are merciful not obtain mercy? Should they not be chosen for mercy?

2. Before you write an exam, there already exists an answer sheet, before you write the exam, all possible answers were taught to you. Are those then who choose to listen, study and prepare believing what they were taught and applying them, called hapless?
If you were told a lie, blame the one who mislead you. If you want the truth ask and seek for it, do not assume in your ignorance to know the difference between God's predestination and the choice He has given to them. Don't you know that even those who were called may not be chosen, thereby granting an opportunity for others to be called. No you don't, if you did you would have humility and show honesty and not your arrogance from your ignorance.

3. Do you even know what a soul is, and where is comes from? Where you there when your soul was to be formed? You speak a lot of rubbish then mention consent, who did you give consent to before you had this life of yours, or from whom would you quary for taking it away? Please open your eyes, look at the chessboard, you are yet to make a move.

When the blind say, "as we can all see". Are you referring to the darkness within or your inability to tell that there's light outside of you?

The lie that has blinded you, is it that there exists an get-out-of-moral-abilty-free card. the god that sold that lie to you is also the one that has blinded you

Do you even know the game?
Are you playing chess or cards?

MaxInDHouse:


Surely you underestimated the attributes of God Almighty, He is not the bully you were taught to think He is His capability doesn't mean He must do things the way you think so He can do anything He only choose to allow each intelligent being (human or angel) to do whatever pleases them.
As for being at all places of course you can't expect Him to come stay with you while you are pooing or mating with your woman nah!

Mtchew. 0/10.
When you are ready to give a direct answer to my question without all these irrelevant, silly responses let me know.

TheDevilsBride:

Is that what we're calling divine capriciousness nowadays, lol?
I'll give credit where due, you are highly talented, the way you twist and contort the scriptures in such hilarious fashion to your taste. Active divine intervention has somehow transmogrified into ive permission. Nawa. Not even a yogi can twist and turn like this! Are you proposing we should go back to our dictionaries and rewrite the meaning of the word harden in light of your fascinating, albeit dubious, new interpretation?
This is evasion of the topic via disconnected ramblings, not exegesis. Oh, and I don't know if you noticed but you just debunked free will. So your omnibenevolent god saw no better, less destructive alternatives to convey his message? Very interesting.
...a proverb so spectacularly misguided, and profoundly irrelevant to the question at hand. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't genuinely impressed by its sheer audacity. So far in your argument, you've debunked God's omnibenevolence, as well as the concept of human free will. Was that your intention all along, or did you unwittingly blast off your own foot trying to resolve your cognitive dissonance? Orchestrating defiant behaviors in humans does not align with the concept of an all-powerful, omnibenevolent deity. Such a deity wouldn't need to turn Pharaoh into a puppet for his infantile games just to establish his sovereignty.

And you've forgotten that people living back then has been brainwashed by the demons they worship to trust in their own weapons and strength against any God whatever you may say!

TheDevilsBride:

Funny how your deity's existence is always dependent on people's lack of perception. You guys make your god sound less omnipotent, and more like a metaphysical peek-a-boo champion who needs therapy to help with his crippling stage fright .

You think by your words that God must show you Himself, shey?

Guy stop being childish jọọ you must play by the rules He set to perceive Him it's when you follow such rules and find out that He doesn't prove Himself that you can say He doesn't exist!

kingxsamz:

Tormenting Satan by tormenting his own followers. 😂 Satan go just sidon dey laugh. If you like type 100 paragraphs, your god is uniwse.

It's not to convince you Mr Atheist but to strengthen the faith of true believers so Satan knows very well that the resistance of believers is a proof that we are conquerors in Jesus name!

kingxsamz:

Mtchew. 0/10.
When you are ready to give a direct answer to my question without all these irrelevant, silly responses let me know.

Believers knows you have been silenced!

Atheism made many people really funny.
How can you just wake up and set your own rules for a mighty person to do what you wish instead of doing what he says in order to prove he is truly mighty?

God promised to do something and said nothing can stop Him from achieving His goal, He lifted everything in His word and it's happening just as He promised yet some claims He doesn't exist because He has not done what they are saying He should before they can believe in His existence.

Really funny!

MaxInDHouse:


Believers knows you have been silenced!

What's this one talking about again?

MaxInDHouse:


It's not to convince you Mr Atheist but to strengthen the faith of true believers so Satan knows very well that the resistance of believers is a proof that we are conquerors in Jesus name!

Even true believers go dey fear to be true believers, before their god will fuuIishly use them to play bet with Satan. 😂