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If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" - Christianity Etc (3) - Nairaland 2x3t6j

If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" (3084 Views)

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kingxsamz(m): 9:27am On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:

It has to do with INTELLIGENCE so make your mind over to learn!
The Bible Author introduced Himself to mankind through the first five books.
He started saying He created everything both visible and invisible then the next chapter is about how humans had two genders next He explained how the first human couple were misled to rebel against Him.
Satan kept quiet because there is nothing tangible he could say to refute everything the Bible God said, all what Satan does is to hide behind human rulers to force people into doing what he wish.
That's why the Bible God allowed Satan to rule the whole earth but kept only one nation and gave them His laws to set them apart from all other nations.
Satan knew very well that with this single nation people the world over will realize that the standard God set for the Israelites is second to none so Satan started raising different nations to attack Israel.
Go and read the history of nations back then try to reason with their way of punishing wrongdoers then you will know what evil Satan infused in their hearts! smiley
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Mtchew. Bunch of words that hasn't justified how Satan is the bad guy.
When you're ready to talk, let me know.
kingxsamz(m): 9:28am On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:

Yet you can't stop talking about what He did! smiley

People talk about characters from movies and stories all the time. You have no point.
kingxsamz(m): 9:30am On Jan 30
gohf:
my guy you are already under someone power, you live in a country ruled by others. It's not even up to the weak to pick who rules them, is it?

so you agree that people should bow to powerful tyrants simply because they're wicked and eviI right? So you agree your god is a tyrant... Got it.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ

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gohf: 12:35pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:


so you agree that people should bow to powerful tyrants simply because they're wicked and eviI right? So you agree your god is a tyrant... Got it.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ
you are conversing with yourself that's a sign of abnormality. Stop answering yourself and answer me.

My God is good, if you want to speak speak about what you have. It is foolish to absolutely believe what you are assuming and have no proof to. You don't know my God so stop assuming and speak concerning your own gods.
kingxsamz(m): 12:43pm On Jan 30
gohf:
you are conversing with yourself that's a sign of abnormality. Stop answering yourself and answer me.

My God is good, if you want to speak speak about what you have. It is foolish to absolutely believe what you are assuming and have no proof to. You don't know my God so stop assuming and speak concerning your own gods.

Your god, the chiId kiIIer and genocidal freak?
Mtchew.
What has Hitler done that your god hasn't already carried out in the bible? Yet the so called bad guy hasn't even done close to half of it.

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TrajansKong: 12:48pm On Jan 30
gohf:
well between a powerful "tyrant" and a bad guy who does common sense say you should side with

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sonmvayina(m): 12:56pm On Jan 30
gohf:
oga talk about yourself, when you sonmvayina expire it goes back into the universe

Are you scared of death?
gohf: 12:56pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:


Your god, the chiId kiIIer and genocidal freak?
Mtchew.
What has Hitler done that your god hasn't already carried out in the bible? Yet the so called bad guy hasn't even done close to half of it.
Before you quote me make sure your brain IS Intact alright?

Type something that makes sense and is related to what we are discussing.

If you are angry with God that's your business, Jesus is the mediator not me, so go to Jesus if you want peace or go amd fight God.

You keep mentioning a bad guy, who is the bad guy, if you like the bad guy follow him, did I say you should stop. Guy continue.

If you want to accuse my God of evil, come with proof and stop ranting like someone who doesn't have the brain to bring out real proof.

God kills and makes alive, He kills not just the body but also the soul. He kills the wicked and all their children for all the blood they have spilled, for all the children they have killed. God is just and the vengeance of the weak.

If you kill people children, God will kill your children one by one, he may even keep you alive and watch your grandchildren die one by one. It's will be so painful because you won't realize and will forget He is the one who gave life. You don't own life, not even your own.

So while you are foolish enough not to fear Him, even if you claim He is wicked, at least the devil that goes against God has power, you what do you have?
sonmvayina(m): 12:57pm On Jan 30
gohf:
you told who what? What are you talking about about ๐Ÿ™„, is your consciousness speaking to you again


The matrix is real...
gohf: 12:58pm On Jan 30
sonmvayina:


Are you scared of death?
so I have to be sacred of death for me to correct and tell you to use yourself in what you believe. If you believe it, use yourself.

Me when I leave this world I will go where the souls awaiting resurrection are.

If you want to expire, go ahead don't add me, go on you own
gohf: 12:59pm On Jan 30
sonmvayina:



The matrix is real...


yes I watched the movie
MaxInDHouse(m): 1:03pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:

Mtchew. Bunch of words that hasn't justified how Satan is the bad guy.
When you're ready to talk, let me know.
Let Satan inspired his own book to prove his innocence nah! smiley
MaxInDHouse(m): 1:04pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:

People talk about characters from movies and stories all the time. You have no point.
And they are taking it this far shey? cheesy
sonmvayina(m): 1:07pm On Jan 30
gohf:
yes I watched the movie

Do you understand it?
Kobojunkie: 2:38pm On Jan 30
AbuTwins:
โžœI don't think we are discussing who the texts are being directed to but about destiny/fate! And it is sure clear from the verses. So stop avoiding the evident!
In parsing a message in any language, one of the key rules is always to ensure context is king. A message written for instance in the context that is American Law can never be correctly parsed correctly if judged against the context of say Afghanistan or even Nigerian Law. Context of any conversation is of utmost importance when understanding any text. undecided

In this case, the context is always YHWHโ€” God of Israel โ€”and His plan, Israel which He chose the family of Jacob to implement. No other people are addressed in the same light by Him. His messages, which you quote there, are all directed at the descendants of Jacob whose every action is judged by the Law given to them by their YHWH โ€” God of Israel. And according to Him, YHWH, based on the tenets of the Law, those of them who live and make choices in compliance with the Law will be blessed by Him while all others will receive Death and curses from Him from among this very same population. We read of this playing out with all of those who were sent by Him including the lay people. This is not the path of destiny/fate which instead suggests some sort of predetermined/prewritten/preordained end for individuals. undecided

Religion cannot force a different narrative on YHWH โ€” God of Israel โ€” other than that which He has made clear for thousands of years now about His plan and desire. So, give it up already! undecided
kingxsamz(m): 2:49pm On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:

And they are taking it this far shey? cheesy
I don't get. Taking what far? undecided
Commenting on Nairaland is taking things far when people actually hold conventions to cosplay and discuss about their favourite book or TV characters?
kingxsamz(m): 2:51pm On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:

Let Satan inspired his own book to prove his innocence nah! smiley

Prove what when they're actually buddies. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Most of the bible was your god waging war against humans instead of Satan and his cohorts.
kingxsamz(m): 2:56pm On Jan 30
gohf:
Before you quote me make sure your brain IS Intact alright?

Type something that makes sense and is related to what we are discussing.

If you are angry with God that's your business, Jesus is the mediator not me, so go to Jesus if you want peace or go amd fight God.

You keep mentioning a bad guy, who is the bad guy, if you like the bad guy follow him, did I say you should stop. Guy continue.

If you want to accuse my God of evil, come with proof and stop ranting like someone who doesn't have the brain to bring out real proof.

God kills and makes alive, He kills not just the body but also the soul. He kills the wicked and all their children for all the blood they have spilled, for all the children they have killed. God is just and the vengeance of the weak.

If you kill people children, God will kill your children one by one, he may even keep you alive and watch your grandchildren die one by one. It's will be so painful because you won't realize and will forget He is the one who gave life. You don't own life, not even your own.

So while you are foolish enough not to fear Him, even if you claim He is wicked, at least the devil that goes against God has power, you what do you have?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's a genocidal maniac, just like Hitler. You're typing all this and still proving me right. Just go and rest your head bro.
ICEWIN: 3:26pm On Jan 30
gohf:
Before you quote me make sure your brain IS Intact alright?

Type something that makes sense and is related to what we are discussing.

If you are angry with God that's your business, Jesus is the mediator not me, so go to Jesus if you want peace or go amd fight God.

You keep mentioning a bad guy, who is the bad guy, if you like the bad guy follow him, did I say you should stop. Guy continue.

If you want to accuse my God of evil, come with proof and stop ranting like someone who doesn't have the brain to bring out real proof.

God kills and makes alive, He kills not just the body but also the soul. He kills the wicked and all their children for all the blood they have spilled, for all the children they have killed. God is just and the vengeance of the weak.

If you kill people children, God will kill your children one by one, he may even keep you alive and watch your grandchildren die one by one. It's will be so painful because you won't realize and will forget He is the one who gave life. You don't own life, not even your own.

So while you are foolish enough not to fear Him, even if you claim He is wicked, at least the devil that goes against God has power, you what do you have?
At the end of your writeup you just decribe God as evil.
Moral lesson stop arguing with people,some people are just smart, serve God if you want to without all this unnecessary argument it won't change who God is.
Is just like every religion has the good and the bad,the poor and the rich.
Focus on your religion and forget about argument.
Atheist people can prove with evidence that God is evil.
MaxInDHouse(m): 3:43pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:

I don't get. Taking what far? undecided
Commenting on Nairaland is taking things far when people actually hold conventions to cosplay and discuss about their favourite book or TV characters?
People who are FOND of a book or TV character may hold a convention but never has people engage themselves in arguments over such things when some thinks it's meaningless.

So you people coming to Nairaland day in day out to argue over a book that you don't believe makes no practical sense! smiley
gohf: 3:44pm On Jan 30
ICEWIN:

At the end of your writeup you just decribe God as evil.
Moral lesson stop arguing with people,some people are just smart, serve God if you want to without all this unnecessary argument it won't change who God is.
Is just like every religion has the good and the bad,the poor and the rich.
Focus on your religion and forget about argument.
Atheist people can prove with evidence that God is evil.
and where in that writeup did I describe God as evil, could you highlight it or quote it out?

Don't know what you find smart about what he said. And who you are to tell others to focus and not argue. Please keep your advise, I am very focused on what I am doing. If you can't speak the truth be quiet, I didn't try to get him to serve God, and if I wish to speak to him it is my choice not yours. Now if you can't show where my writeup shows I describe God as evil, then it shows your level of reasoning to judge them smart in the first place.
MaxInDHouse(m): 3:44pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:

Prove what when they're actually buddies. ๐Ÿ˜‚
Most of the bible was your god waging war against humans instead of Satan and his cohorts.
Who is behind pagan nations if God is behind the Israelites? smiley
gohf: 3:47pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:


Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's a genocidal maniac, just like Hitler. You're typing all this and still proving me right. Just go and rest your head bro.
Like I wrote If you kill people children, God will kill your children one by one, he may even keep you alive and watch your grandchildren die one by one. It's will be so painful because you won't realize and will forget He is the one who gave life. You don't own life, not even your own.

If you think God is evil because He judges your wickedness and punishes you for it. Yes He give evil to the evil. He has no mercy or goodness towards them. You refuse to repent or change, you will suffer for the evil you enjoy.
ICEWIN: 4:03pm On Jan 30
gohf:
and where in that writeup did I describe God as evil, could you highlight it or quote it out?

Don't know what you find smart about what he said. And who you are to tell others to focus and not argue. Please keep your advise, I am very focused on what I am doing. If you can't speak the truth be quiet, I didn't try to get him to serve God, and if I wish to speak to him it is my choice not yours. Now if you can't show where my writeup shows I describe God as evil, then it shows your level of reasoning to judge them smart in the first place.


Your level of reasoning is still daft.
I have every right to dictate to you,left for you to comply or not.....
gohf: 4:10pm On Jan 30
ICEWIN:



Your level of reasoning is still daft.
I have every right to dictate to you,left for you to comply or not.....
it maybe to you, but your evaluation is useless even to yourself. How do you cope?
Well being arrogant and deceiving yourself is also your right and your choice.

One question was all you had to answer and you showed you are incapable of even doing that. Ignorance.

"You have the right to dictate to others". Arrogance.

๐Ÿคฃ even a daft person won't comply with you. Reading you post may actually make one daft ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ. I apologize for responding to you ๐Ÿ˜” I assumed you had reasoning within you, I confused you for a sensible person. I am sorry if you at least have a heart, forgive me ๐Ÿ™
kingxsamz(m): 5:09pm On Jan 30
gohf:
Like I wrote If you kill people children, God will kill your children one by one, he may even keep you alive and watch your grandchildren die one by one. It's will be so painful because you won't realize and will forget He is the one who gave life. You don't own life, not even your own.

If you think God is evil because He judges your wickedness and punishes you for it. Yes He give evil to the evil. He has no mercy or goodness towards them. You refuse to repent or change, you will suffer for the evil you enjoy.

The problem is you keep repeating the same thing and think you're proving me wrong.
Your god is a genocidal maniac who kiIIs children,
and you're proving me right by repeating how much of a genocidal maniac he is.
So I don't know what your argument is here. We're both on the same page.
kingxsamz(m): 5:12pm On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:

Who is behind pagan nations if God is behind the Israelites? smiley

So you haven't given it a thought that perhaps this your god is behind those pagan nations since violence and destruction gives him orgasms?
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:16pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:

So you haven't given it a thought that perhaps this your god is behind those pagan nations since violence and destruction gives him orgasms?

This is really funny! cheesy

Someone gives order that people living in a particular place should be slaughtered if they refuse to evaluate the place now those people now decided to fight back instead of running away from the nation whose God fought the world's most powerful nation (Egypt) without a single fight by anyone and delivered His worshipers.

แปŒmแป use your brain nah, someone is backing those people to fight back even though they knew they are not supposed to resist the Israelites! smiley
kingxsamz(m): 5:17pm On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:

People who are FOND of a book or TV character may hold a convention but never has people engage themselves in arguments over such things when some thinks it's meaningless.

So you people coming to Nairaland day in day out to argue over a book that you don't believe makes no practical sense! smiley

Lol, you're pointless. So typing few words on a phone which takes less than a minute is far worse than going all out to cosplay fictional book/tv characters and having physical discussions based on them?
Anyways my point has been made which I'm sure you've already understood.
People talking about a book character does not make it real. So don't stress yourself.

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kingxsamz(m): 5:21pm On Jan 30
MaxInDHouse:


This is really funny! cheesy

Someone gives order that people living in a particular place should be slaughtered if they refuse to evaluate the place now those people now decided to fight back instead of running away from the nation whose God fought the world's most powerful nation (Egypt) without a single fight by anyone and delivered His worshipers.

แปŒmแป use your brain nah, someone is backing those people to fight back even though they knew they are not supposed to resist the Israelites! smiley

Oh, you mean the same god who's very much omnipresent and omniscient, who created a garden and for whatever reason planted a deadly tree in the middle of it and allowed same Satan access to it, only to barricade it with flaming swords after Adam and Eve had been successfully tempted? ๐Ÿ˜‚
kingxsamz(m): 5:23pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:


Oh, you mean the same god who's very much omnipresent and omniscient, who created a garden and for whatever reason planted a deadly tree in the middle of it and allowed same Satan access to it, only to barricade it with flaming swords after Adam and Eve had been successfully tempted? ๐Ÿ˜‚

Like I said MaxInDHouse, you probably haven't given it a thought, but your god character is a master of chaos and division. A true viIIian.. That's why Satan could stroll into heaven without any push backs and still be tasked to torture and kill the family of his most devoted follower. Yes I'm talking about Job. cheesy
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:34pm On Jan 30
kingxsamz:

Oh, you mean the same god who's very much omnipresent and omniscient, who created a garden and for whatever reason planted a deadly tree in the middle of it and allowed same Satan access to it, only to barricade it with flaming swords after Adam and Eve had been successfully tempted? ๐Ÿ˜‚

Did you read the he highlighted in God's word or some religionists told you?

You will be shocked to know what the Bible God say on the highlighted! smiley

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