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Many atimes I keep seeing things like, let's take our country back.

The question is take it back then give it to who?

Who are we giving it to?

Hope it's not the issue of same wine in a different bottle?


Personally left to me, if truly we are sincere about taking our country back, then we should be sincere with ourselves


We should give it to someone who have never been there before, a youth who have the zeal to do something different

Someone who haven't failed us before, to me it's insincerity to tell me to take it back from an APC man n give it to a PDP man!!!

Do a little time travel back to 6 years ago n tell me if APC isn't equal to PDP today?

Ask yourself, how can an over 60 year old man be seen as a youth if we are been sincere with ourselves?

If a 60 year old man is a youth, then what should we call a 45 year old man?

I guess a toddler?


If your plan is to take it back and give it to anyone that have held positions between 99 to 2023 then u are insincere.

Give it to those with no track records of achieving anything tangible when they had the privilege to serve

Politics aside, sentiments aside, emotions aside, please which of any of the presidential aspirants in Nigeria had/have the capacity to govern and be bold as a leader in decision making than president Tinubu? Who?

The gathering of the opposition forming coercion/coalition is just a waste of time because sentiments would favour president Tinubu. Whether the opposition are presenting their presidential candidate from North or South, the story of using one term can never sell.

Factcheck0001:
Many atimes I keep seeing things like, let's take our country back.

The question is take it back then give it to who?

Who are we giving it to?

Hope it's not the issue of same wine in a different bottle?


Personally left to me, if truly we are sincere about taking our country back, then we should be sincere with ourselves


We should give it to someone who have never been there before, a youth who have the zeal to do something different

Someone who haven't failed us before, to me it's insincerity to tell me to take it back from an APC man n give it to a PDP man!!!

Do a little time travel back to 6 years ago n tell me if APC isn't equal to PDP today?

Ask yourself, how can an over 60 year old man be seen as a youth if we are been sincere with ourselves?

If a 60 year old man is a youth, then what should we call a 45 year old man?

I guess a toddler?


If your plan is to take it back and give it to anyone that have held positions between 99 to 2023 then u are insincere.

You who do you think they should give it back to

helinues:
Give it to those with no track records of achieving anything tangible when they had the privilege to serve

Politics aside, sentiments aside, emotions aside, please which of any of the presidential aspirants in Nigeria had/have the capacity to govern and be bold as a leader in decision making than president Tinubu? Who?

The gathering of the opposition forming coercion/coalition is just a waste of time because sentiments would favour president Tinubu. Whether the opposition are presenting their presidential candidate from North or South, the story of using one term can never sell.

Bold in making decisions that favors only political leaders massively abi?
Decisions that has brought untold hardship to the common man.
If I ask you now, you will say the common man should go and huzzle.
If I still ask you one thing the common man on the street has benefitted from the so called policies, you will be here yarning rubbish

@OP, give it to anyone asides APC. If there is anything it signifies, it will be a warning to any party in power, perform or be booted out. Why there is so much laxity among leaders to perform is simple, they don't care, all they know that come next election they will buy votes and rig elections

I would have said "Track record" is mad, but I'd refrain from vulgarity. However, who amongst our past and aspiring rulers is bereft of "Track record?" We are currently suffering from "Track record!"

Zionmdde:

Bold in making decisions that favors only political leaders massively abi?
Decisions that has brought untold hardship to the common man.
If I ask you now, you will say the common man should go and huzzle.
If I still ask you one thing the common man on the street has benefitted from the so called policies, you will be here yarning rubbish

@OP, give it to anyone asides APC. If there is anything it signifies, it will be a warning to any party in power, perform or be booted out. Why there is so much laxity among leaders to perform is simple, they don't care, all they know that come next election they will buy votes and rig elections

https://nairaland.moviesx.org/8444558/president-tinubu-performed-better-first

The thread above, none of you could dispute the little achievements listed there. You guys don't expect us to keep on repeating ourselves

Agbegbaorogboye:

You who do you think they should give it back to

there are many options available

Sowore
That 39 year old Ibo professor from accord

N many more

My point is someone less than 60 who hasn't been there before

Factcheck0001:
there are many options available

Sowore
That 39 year old Ibo professor from accord

N many more

My point is someone less than 60 who hasn't been there before

But you're always here defending Tinubu
Is Tinubu less than 60 or a new face?

Zionmdde:

Bold in making decisions that favors only political leaders massively abi?
Decisions that has brought untold hardship to the common man.
If I ask you now, you will say the common man should go and huzzle.
If I still ask you one thing the common man on the street has benefitted from the so called policies, you will be here yarning rubbish

@OP, give it to anyone asides APC. If there is anything it signifies, it will be a warning to any party in power, perform or be booted out. Why there is so much laxity among leaders to perform is simple, they don't care, all they know that come next election they will buy votes and rig elections

if your opinion is to give it to anyone aside APC then let Tinubu continue cos we will just b moving in circles.

So we will collect it from APC n give it to PDP or LP now, then when they fumble again people like u will come again n say give it to anyone aside PDP n we will return it to APC again?
. meaning we will keep moving in circles till we give it back to either yahaya Bello or ikpeazu or aregbesola or any deadbeat politician


That your method can't work, let's take it back n give it to a new set of people with new ideas different from people who have held one position or d other since 99 till 2023

Agbegbaorogboye:

But you're always here defending Tinubu
Is Tinubu less than 60 or a new face?

if we are taking it back from Tinubu, we can't give it to anyone who have held one position or two since 99 to 2023.

If truly u people are sincere about taking it back then it must b a new person.

Anything less than that is pure deciet

Factcheck0001:
if your opinion is to give it to anyone aside APC then let Tinubu continue cos we will just b moving in circles.

So we will collect it from APC n give it to PDP or LP now, then when they fumble again people like u will come again n say give it to anyone aside PDP n we will return it to APC again?
. meaning we will keep moving in circles till we give it back to either yahaya Bello or ikpeazu or aregbesola or any deadbeat politician


That your method can't work, let's take it back n give it to a new set of people with new ideas different from people who have held one position or d other since 99 till 2023

Yes if they fumble we give it another person. That's why Chelsea will keep being above arsenal for now. You keep rotating till you get it. That's why private company staffs are more performing than government workers
It will keep elected leaders on their toes, as they know it's either they perform or they are booted out

The system of let's keep voting our party, irrespective of their performance, where has it gotten Nigeria up.till now?

Zionmdde:

Bold in making decisions that favors only political leaders massively abi?
Decisions that has brought untold hardship to the common man.
If I ask you now, you will say the common man should go and huzzle.
If I still ask you one thing the common man on the street has benefitted from the so called policies, you will be here yarning rubbish

@OP, give it to anyone asides APC. If there is anything it signifies, it will be a warning to any party in power, perform or be booted out. Why there is so much laxity among leaders to perform is simple, they don't care, all they know that come next election they will buy votes and rig elections

Don't be trying to reason with these agbado heads
Just ask questions to expose their hypocrisy
Has he ever voted for sowore before? In Lagos in the last election, same agbado preferred Sanwo who has been in govt since 1999 to GRV who has never held any office. Maybe as tinubulation is holding him this afternoon he's having buyer's remorse. Just wait let their WhatsApp post some tribal drivel and he'll return to default setting

Factcheck0001:
if we are taking it back from Tinubu, we can't give it to anyone who have held one position or two since 99 to 2023.

If truly u people are sincere about taking it back then it must b a new person.

Anything less than that is pure deciet

Since 2015, you have been voting people who have been in govt into office regardless of performance.

So when did you realise that you can't give it to who has been in office before?

https://nairaland.moviesx.org/8444558/president-tinubu-performed-better-first

The thread above, none of you could dispute the little achievements listed there. You guys don't expect us to keep on repeating ourselves

You mentioned "No ASUU strike" Lol see metrics. How has the quality of education developed in tinubu's government?
You mentioned students loan. Lol, has that made students fare better financially than they did in Buhari's era. How much is their school fees? Let's say 100k. An amount already swallowed by double accommodation, transport and feeding expenses.

You mentioned "no fuel queue" lol, you forgot the law of elasticity? Higher price lower demand. Or you forgot that when fuel was 165 and there was queue, you can actually buy it for 200 very easily. Now how much is fuel again? Moreover how does no fuel queue benefit the common man that is paying more than triple increase for transportation

Lastly you mentioned price of food coming down, how much was rice in 2023 before tinubu and how much is it now? Do the same for other foodstuffs

Let me ask you again, what is the common man benefitting from this government

Zionmdde:

Yes if they fumble we give it another person. That's why Chelsea will keep being above arsenal for now. You keep rotating till you get it. That's why private company staffs are more performing than government workers
It will keep elected leaders on their toes, as they know it's either they perform or they are booted out

The system of let's keep voting our party, irrespective of their performance, where has it gotten Nigeria up.till now?

oga this is not football

Don't compare apples to oranges abeg, no private company will give a position to someone who have been there and failed before
.

They will rather give it to a new person, so we should keep rotating so it can get to the same people u once labelled failures right?

With your replies here, it's obvious u don't care who becomes president but u just don't want APC or a Yoruba person because this your idea of finding solutions with both eyes closed is what I don't understand


U don't care if u give it to someone worst than the present one but u just don't want d present one to b there.


Oga if u want to b sincere with yourselves, that's not how to find a solution. A solution is a well calculated n sort out way of ending a problem not just an emotionally distorted approach like your idea.


If by your postulation we should take it from tinubu n still give it to people in tinubu class of 99 then let Tinubu continue cos it won't make a difference.


But if it's to collect it from tinubu n give it to someone new n below 60 then no problems

Agbegbaorogboye:

Since 2015, you have been voting people who have been in govt into office regardless of performance.

So when did you realise that you can't give it to who has been in office before?

it is only a blocked minded person that will keep doing the same thing everytime n expecting different results.

If u people truly believe we should take our country back then we should take it back from set of 99 n look for new people.


That's what is called overhauling, not taking it back from someone u labelled a failure from the other end n giving it to the failure from your own side.

It's crystal care that all u just want is power, u don't care if u collect it from a failure n give it to another failure, u just want to collect it from d present person holding it cos he's not your own.

U people don't know it's very easy to see through your games


If truly u want d best for Nigeria, collect it from tinubu u labelled a failure n give it to someone better n not your own failure

Those who use the slogan "take back your country" are a group of faiIed crîmîñaIs who want Nigerians to bring them into power because they fell out of power.
If Nigerians are taking back the country, a new face with a new and proven philosophy must be at the helm, not a recycled fràûd who faiIed w0efuIIy as governor but wants to sneak into power.

Factcheck0001:
oga this is not football

Don't compare apples to oranges abeg, no private company will give a position to someone who have been there and failed before
.

They will rather give it to a new person, so we should keep rotating so it can get to the same people u once labelled failures right?

With your replies here, it's obvious u don't care who becomes president but u just don't want APC or a Yoruba person because this your idea of finding solutions with both eyes closed is what I don't understand


U don't care if u give it to someone worst than the present one but u just don't want d present one to b there.


Oga if u want to b sincere with yourselves, that's not how to find a solution. A solution is a well calculated n sort out way of ending a problem not just an emotionally distorted approach like your idea.


If by your postulation we should take it from tinubu n still give it to people in tinubu class of 99 then let Tinubu continue cos it won't make a difference.


But if it's to collect it from tinubu n give it to someone new n below 60 then no problems

Now he has gone tribal. Sorry i dont do all that tribalism you guys do here. I will prefer an osibanjo to an ikpeazu

Yes I don't care which party wins, but just not APC, at least for now. Till another party fails and apc presents a better option/hope

You have done the comparison on governorship level, and you refused to do it on presidential level, tinubu has failed but let him remain there instead of trying a new president, same thing was said for buhari, same thing will be said again after tinubu and we ask if Nigeria is cursed that we are not progressing

Private companies hire and fire all the time that is why they have performing staffs. They will even hire someone who has failed in another company. But government workers knows that it's no leave no transfer that's why they don't care about performance. You can compare the two sectors in of productivity

Agbegbaorogboye:

Don't be trying to reason with these agbado heads
Just ask questions to expose their hypocrisy
Has he ever voted for sowore before? In Lagos in the last election, same agbado preferred Sanwo who has been in govt since 1999 to GRV who has never held any office. Maybe as tinubulation is holding him this afternoon he's having buyer's remorse. Just wait let their WhatsApp post some tribal drivel and he'll return to default setting

Lagos is an indigenous state and only it's indigene can b governor same as anambara n other 4 Ibo states, unlike Nigeria.

Chinedu isn't a Yoruba man n he made it clear he doesn't think in Yoruba.

So u want the people to vote for someone who made it clear he's not part of them n doesn't think like them?

Someone who denigrates their heritage by using a slur word to address them.

Chinedu isn't the only one with a Ibo mother but he was solely rejected for his words and actions


Adeleke has an Ibo mom n he's a governor today

Aregbesola has an Igbira father n he was once governor.

Desmond Elliot was accepted with both hands, so check yourself n tell your self the truth about y chinedu was rejected

Factcheck0001:
it is only a blocked minded person that will keep doing the same thing everytime n expecting different results.

If u people truly believe we should take our country back then we should take it back from set of 99 n look for new people.


That's what is called overhauling, not taking it back from someone u labelled a failure from the other end n giving it to the failure from your own side.

It's crystal care that all u just want is power, u don't care if u collect it from a failure n give it to another failure, u just want to collect it from d present person holding it cos he's not your own.

U people don't know it's very easy to see through your games


If truly u want d best for Nigeria, collect it from tinubu u labelled a failure n give it to someone better n not your own failure

But it is you who collected power from Bubu a failure and gave it to Tinubu another failure
Why are you projecting yourself on me?
If we all agree to give power to a neutral person say sowore, your WhatsApp will go and dig up something about him to stop you from voting.
The good thing is that you guys are in the minority. The elections result shows that all the BATists in Lagos are not up to 600k and we all know that Lagos is where majority of BATists are so your deceit is not really consequential to anyone

JagabanBorgu:
Those who use the slogan "take back your country" are a group of faiIed crîmîñaIs who want Nigerians to bring them into power because they fell out of power.
If Nigerians are taking back the country, a new face with a new and proven philosophy must be at the helm, not a recycled fràûd who faiIed w0efuIIy as governor but wants to sneak into power.

God bless u


They are shouting take back your country n they want to give it to the same people who they have once labelled failures ..


If truly they want us to take back the country then they should bring new faces who have never held any position since 99.


It's just like telling me to run from an arm robber n go n hide in d house of a ritualist.

Factcheck0001:
Lagos is an indigenous state and only it's indigene can b governor same as anambara n other 4 Ibo states, unlike Nigeria.

Chinedu isn't a Yoruba man n he made it clear he doesn't think in Yoruba.

So u want the people to vote for someone who made it clear he's not part of them n doesn't think like them?

Someone who denigrates their heritage by using a slur word to address them.

Chinedu isn't the only one with a Ibo mother but he was solely rejected for his words and actions


Adeleke has an Ibo mom n he's a governor today

Aregbesola has an Igbira father n he was once governor.

Desmond Elliot was accepted with both hands, so check yourself n tell your self the truth about y chinedu was rejected

Can you explain how Gbadebo Rhodes-Vivour is not a Yoruba
I daresay he's more Lagosian than even your Tinubu
Besides, last I checked, you've voted for at least 2 non-indigenes as gov of Lagos

Zionmdde:

Now he has gone tribal. Sorry i dont do all that tribalism you guys do here. I will prefer an osibanjo to an ikpeazu

Yes I don't care which party wins, but just not APC, at least for now. Till another party fails and apc presents a better option/hope

You have done the comparison on governorship level, and you refused to do it on presidential level, tinubu has failed but let him remain there instead of trying a new president, same thing was said for buhari, same thing will be said again after tinubu and we ask if Nigeria is cursed that we are not progressing

Private companies hire and fire all the time that is why they have performing staffs. They will even hire someone who has failed in another company. But government workers knows that it's no leave no transfer that's why they don't care about performance. You can compare the two sectors in of productivity

so are u saying we e should take it from APC that has failed for 10 years n give to to PDP that failed for 16 years


Or which party are we giving it too apart from PDP?
.


N once u want to mention LP don't forget obi n datti were strong PDP few years ago so LP is another branch of PDP.

So are u saying we should take it from APC and give it to PDP or PDP lite(LP)?

Zionmdde:

You mentioned "No ASUU strike" Lol see metrics. How has the quality of education developed in tinubu's government?
You mentioned students loan. Lol, has that made students fare better financially than they did in Buhari's era. How much is their school fees? Let's say 100k. An amount already swallowed by double accommodation, transport and feeding expenses.

You mentioned "no fuel queue" lol, you forgot the law of elasticity? Higher price lower demand. Or you forgot that when fuel was 165 and there was queue, you can actually buy it for 200 very easily. Now how much is fuel again? Moreover how does no fuel queue benefit the common man that is paying more than triple increase for transportation

Lastly you mentioned price of food coming down, how much was rice in 2023 before tinubu and how much is it now? Do the same for other foodstuffs

Let me ask you again, what is the common man benefitting from this government

The beneficiaries of those government incentives have different stories to tell.

There are new government establishments across Nigeria, the workers who are doing the construction are Nigerians, when the construction is completed, the staff , management is a direct employment plus quick service delivery.

Places like Southern Kaduna who are about to have their own federal university for the first time.

Factcheck0001:
God bless u


They are shouting take back your country n they want to give it to the same people who they have once labelled failures ..


If truly they want us to take back the country then they should bring new faces who have never held any position since 99.


It's just like telling me to run from an arm robber n go n hide in d house of a ritualist.

When Nigerians are ready to take back the country, we will take back the country, for now, nobody will come and tell us white Iies that putting him in power is the common man taking back their country, there are governors who screamed "take back your state" in 2023, how are they relating with the poor men of the society now?

helinues:


The beneficiaries of those government incentives have different stories to tell.

There are new government establishments across Nigeria, the workers who are doing the construction are Nigerians, when the construction is completed, the staff , management is a direct employment plus quick service delivery.

Places like Southern Kaduna who are about to have their own federal university for the first time.

Different story that we cannot analyze factually. Different story that their accommodation, Feeding, transport have not skyrocketed? Before tinubu some federal school were charging 45k as school fees sef .

Under tinubu recruitment for government jobs have been bastardized. Recruitment that were previously known to be transparent are now running by slots. So how can the common man get those slots? It's still the politicians fixing their people

Under GEJ 6 federal universities were established, did you apc ers also hail him for that?

Factcheck0001:
so are u saying we e should take it from APC that has failed for 10 years n give to to PDP that failed for 16 years


Or which party are we giving it too apart from PDP?
.


N once u want to mention LP don't forget obi n datti were strong PDP few years ago so LP is another branch of PDP.

So are u saying we should take it from APC and give it to PDP or PDP lite(LP)?

I didn't mention any party yet, but if it is to give back to pdp , it's even better. At least yaradua was a pdp president
Nevertheless, it's not only pdp, apc and lp that contested 2023 election

Zionmdde:

Different story that we cannot analyze factually. Different story that their accommodation, Feeding, transport have not skyrocketed? Before tinubu some federal school were charging 45k as school fees sef .

Under tinubu recruitment for government jobs have been bastardized. Recruitment that were previously known to be transparent are now running by slots. So how can the common man get those slots? It's still the politicians fixing their people

Under GEJ 6 federal universities were established, did you apc ers also hail him for that?

Quarter is better than nothing. There are numerous projects, proposed that would be undertaking in the last 2 years .

Hope you read about the stock exchange profits margin by different companies. The companies, their investors are 90% Nigerians .

Sectors like Immigration, the process of obtaining new port, renewal have been upgraded, that's service delivery.

Abuja, FCT can now be competing with other state capital in of development, all thanks to Wike. They are glaring and visible

New proposed highway from Lagos to Abuja that will through like 6 states taking 4 hours plus.

Things are happening under this government even if you guys at the opposite chose not see them

Zionmdde:

I didn't mention any party yet, but if it is to give back to pdp , it's even better. At least yaradua was a pdp president
Nevertheless, it's not only pdp, apc and lp that contested 2023 election

so u are saying it's better to collect it from someone u claim he failed for 10 years n give it to someone who failed woefully for good 16 years?


Now we know where u are driving at

Factcheck0001:
so u are saying it's better to collect it from someone u claim he failed for 10 years n give it to someone who failed woefully for good 16 years?


Now we know where u are driving at

Lol, 16yrs you counted yaradua's 2 yes too?
The fact that the failure even gets to 8yrs is a testament that we are not serious in this country

Funny enough I was one of pdp critic in those years, apc has shown they are worse. Look at America with 2 party system, they change the parties if they feel like the past government didn't do well.

Moreover I asked, were there only 2 parties that contested 2023 elections?

Zionmdde:

Bold in making decisions that favors only political leaders massively abi?
Decisions that has brought untold hardship to the common man.
If I ask you now, you will say the common man should go and huzzle.
If I still ask you one thing the common man on the street has benefitted from the so called policies, you will be here yarning rubbish

@OP, give it to anyone asides APC. If there is anything it signifies, it will be a warning to any party in power, perform or be booted out. Why there is so much laxity among leaders to perform is simple, they don't care, all they know that come next election they will buy votes and rig elections

Complete rubbish. Is this how daft many people are in this country. ”Just give it to anyone outside APC”, what kind of madness is in that thinking. So you can collect your child from the claws of a wolf and give it to a lion without thinking? Only nzogbu nzogbu people think like this. Very sorry state of the mind indeed!

Zionmdde:

Lol, 16yrs you counted yaradua's 2 yes too?
The fact that the failure even gets to 8yrs is a testament that we are not serious in this country

Funny enough I was one of pdp critic in those years, apc has shown they are worse. Look at America with 2 party system, they change the parties if they feel like the past government didn't do well.

Moreover I asked, were there only 2 parties that contested 2023 elections?

please name the remaining parties


Don't forget LP is PDP lite because same people in LP today were once strong of PDP few years ago