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article1: 11:01am On Jun 05
America did the same with Mexico. What was the outcome? Efulefu...
benardtotti(m): 11:02am On Jun 05
samomoli:
I would have preferred this to the construction of the coastal road. Deal with insecurity and see how fast the country will develop generally. The amount insecurity is gulping in Nigeria both from individuals and government is much

Insecurity is not a one day thing , you guys keep making this costly mistake as if it's easy to just get all the terrorists at once , Israel that is better equipped than Nigeria has been trying to subdue gaza since 2 years ago They are stil on it , war is very costly bro Nigeria can't afford it .
Personally I like the fact BAT is not sending the north , you cannot expect us to keep funding Your laxity with southern funds it's not possible, let the north keep killing and bombing themselves when they are tired they know what to do to end it .

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ElSudani: 11:02am On Jun 05
grandstar:


A fence would cost about $2-3bn
Possibly.

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kentokay71: 11:02am On Jun 05
Are you okay, at all
franchasng:
If this is not another Tinubu's bulaba propaganda of lies and deceit, then it is a very commendable project.


But unfortunately, everything about Tinubu and his APC is lies lies, deceit and propaganda.


Where is CNG policy as alternative to petrol? Failed and forgotten


Where is State Police? Dumped somewhere because Tinubu is scared that Governors will use it against his failed 2027 reelection daydream.



Where is credit scheme policy? Forgotten like others?

Where is Forest Guards?


Where is Ministry of Cow abi Cattle?


Tinubu thinks running a country is by waking up from sleep to make announcement and go back to sleep


He said subsidy is gone but he is still paying some petrol subsidy through the backdoor.


Believe Tinubu and his bulaba policies at your own peril
Emusan(m): 11:04am On Jun 05
samomoli:
I would have preferred this to the construction of the coastal road. Deal with insecurity and see how fast the country will develop generally. The amount insecurity is gulping in Nigeria both from individuals and government is much

Which would have been one of the best decisions the government ever made.

That ₦15T budgeted for the coastal highway can build times two of any security fence in the entire Nigeria border perimeter.

Nigeria border perimeter is just 4,047km and at a cost of ₦2m per/meter of security border fence, that is capable of giving us 10,000km stretch.

Having in mind that the coastal region and some part won't need this fence which means where this fence is needed should be around 2,500 - 3,000km of Nigeria border perimeter.
cyberbro(m): 11:11am On Jun 05
IslamVIRGINS:


Is there any border area today in Nigeria that's not critical? Name one!

You're right, they're all critical. But in of border security though, the North East must be given a higher priority due to the influx and outflow of bandits and terrorists. Northern borders in general are just too porous.
cyberbro(m): 11:14am On Jun 05
Sensiblerealist:
Bro it's like you don't know these guys. Com Lekki see how dem dey break down 2 story building within 3 weeks as far dey dem don sniff enough Alabukun and other drugs


Yea, but that doesn't mean they will now go to the border and start breaking the concrete walls down lol... Ontop wetin bro? 😂😂😂

Don't forget that the immigration also patrols and such borders would be extremely tall with solar CCTV cameras monitoring it day and night.

Person wey go break border wall because of iron rod go fit break hospital and bank na... E no easy like that o.
nedekid: 11:16am On Jun 05
Fallacy.
Blackdisciple(m): 11:16am On Jun 05
Commendable
Druss(m): 11:17am On Jun 05
Please no. This is not efficient. You are looking at construction, maintenance etc.
lexy2014: 11:22am On Jun 05
nedzuby:


Do you really want progress or you just want to criticize everything?

USA built fence and can you measure USA and Mexico border? If it can be done, nothing is wrong in building one for Nigeria.

is it my criticism that preventing nigeria from making progress?

meanwhile, the technologies you showed in the screenshot, can you tell me where they are already in use by the nigerian government?

what is the length of the border between Borno and Cameroon?
Mrexcell(m): 11:22am On Jun 05
Kemetian:
Fantastic idea.

Why not?

The Benin Empire built a massive wall 500 years ago to protect itself from Arab jihadists, and it worked.

So will this new wall.

.


Won't work in this 21st century those terrorists now have explosives and sophisticated drones that can easily blow open the fence.
lexy2014: 11:26am On Jun 05
benardtotti:


Insecurity is not a one day thing , you guys keep making this costly mistake as if it's easy to just get all the terrorists at once , Israel that is better equipped than Nigeria has been trying to subdue gaza since 2 years ago They are stil on it , war is very costly bro Nigeria can't afford it .
Personally I like the fact BAT is not sending the north , you cannot expect us to keep funding Your laxity with southern funds it's not possible, let the north keep killing and bombing themselves when they are tired they know what to do to end it .

who are the "us"?

which "southern funds" are you talking about?

whose laxity is being funded?

who is the "north"?

since you say tinubu is not sending the north, is he sending the south?
kophy(m): 11:26am On Jun 05
IslamVIRGINS:
You wan fence border with blocks wey no strong your people are selling!
Benin Republic is currently fencinng her border at the Idiroko border Axix with Big Broken Rocks from Save. Infact, it make sence.

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lexy2014: 11:28am On Jun 05
Didi2d:
Funny how lots of people here are celebrating the fencing idea, yes it's good, but it won't stop insecurity and terrorism.

If you fence the borders, do you also intend fencing the whole country?

If your fence stops in the forest, this criminals will come in where your fence stops, if your fence stops by the river, this criminals can find a way to cross

Technology will solve the problem, track this guys with satellite and drone then blow them off. Not forgetting political will to fight insurgency

e be like say this technology na magic.

anything wey you use am do go just work once.

abeg, na the technology go control himself by himself abi na human being go still control am?

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Krismas(m): 11:30am On Jun 05
lexy2014:


1. which AI?

2. can you share with me the plan of the AI to be used to alert the authorities when the wall is breached not "bridged"?

3. will the AI prevent the wall for being breached?

4. in how many operations are the military presently using AI?

5. what will be the response time of the authorities to the point of breach?

6. what is the length of the border between Borno and Cameroon?

7. how many mason does the military have that they will be able to build a fence of such distance?

8. are the masons bullet proof or are they not the from the same military that cannot fight boko haram?

9. if there is "heavy security" to cover masons while building the wall, why has that "heavy security" not dealt with the insecurity once and for all?
grin So many childish questions!
1,2, Modern cameras hidden on walls, employ AI. Its what Israel is using in Rafah crossing. They see anyone going in or out.
3. Its job is to give instant notification of breaches.
4. Shouldn't they? Which modern army isn't?
5. The problem have always been, these terrorists can sneak in and sneak out unmonitored. Even smugglers and fugitives from the law. A wall will constrain them greatly.
6. The distance cannot be policed humanly. You need wall and tech assistance like every other decent country.
7. The Iron curtain Russia built in East Europe, was across 5 countries. Its only the part going thru Berlin, dat people know as the Berlin wall. Nigeria is a tiny country. Iran is much bigger, yet they have a wall separating them from Afghanistan. Stop joking.
8. You underestimate Boko Haram. You don't understand what you are dealing with.
Their pattern is guerrilla warfare. They cannot faceoff with a fully mobilized military.
But the military can not always be fully mobilized. Thats why you mobilize to build a defensive wall.
9. Try and understand the nuances of guerrilla warfare first.

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Dougad: 11:30am On Jun 05
And who will fund it? 🤣
IslamVIRGINS(f): 11:33am On Jun 05
kophy:
Benin Republic is currently fencinng her border at the Idiroko border Axix with Big Broken Rocks from Save. Infact, it make sence.

Are you Benin republic or Nigeria
IslamVIRGINS(f): 11:39am On Jun 05
cyberbro:


You're right, they're all critical. But in of border security though, the North East must be given a higher priority due to the influx and outflow of bandits and terrorists. Northern borders in general are just too porous.

You want bandits and terrorists to kill labourers or workers fencing these areas or you want them to be kidnapped while carrying out this project?
HydraFeeds(m): 11:40am On Jun 05
Kemetian:
Fantastic idea.

Why not?

The Benin Empire built a massive wall 500 years ago to protect itself from Arab jihadists, and it worked.

So will this new wall.


According to documents from Benin ,the wall was not created initially for protection against invaders but to prevent Benin people from migrating to neighbouring kingdoms and empires .
cyberbro(m): 11:40am On Jun 05
IslamVIRGINS:


You want bandits and terrorists to kill labourers or workers fencing these areas or you want them to be kidnapped while carrying out this project?

Such constructions are done my military engineers, if need be they'll add other workers (civilians), but under heavy security protection... But of course, it's still risky...
lexy2014: 11:42am On Jun 05
Krismas:
grin So many childish questions!
1,2, Modern cameras hidden on walls, employ AI. Its what Israel is using in Rafah crossing. They see anyone going in or out.
3. Its job is to give instant notification of breaches.
4. Shouldn't they? Which modern army isn't?
5. The problem have always been, these terrorists can sneak in and sneak out unmonitored. Even smugglers and fugitives from the law. A wall will constrain them greatly.
6. The distance cannot be policed humanly. You need wall and tech assistance like every other decent country.
7. The Iron curtain Russia built in East Europe, was across 5 countries. Its only the part going thru Berlin, dat people know as the Berlin wall. Nigeria is a tiny country. Iran is much bigger, yet they have a wall separating them from Afghanistan. Stop joking.
8. You underestimate Boko Haram. You don't understand what you are dealing with.
Their pattern is guerrilla warfare. They cannot faceoff with a fully mobilized military.
But the military can not always be fully mobilized. Thats why you mobilize to build a defensive wall.
9. Try and understand the nuances of guerrilla warfare first.

off point.

"So many childish questions" and yet you could not answer any of the "childish questions".

1. did I ask you about Israel or Rafah? I asked which AI?

2. I asked you to share with "the plan", you are talking about Rafah crossing. how does Rafah crossing answer my question: can you share with me the plan of the AI to be used to alert the authorities when the wall is breached not "bridged"?

3. don't you know the meaning of the word "prevent"?

will the AI prevent the wall for being breached? simple yes or no

4. in how many operations are the nigerian military presently using AI?

5. I didnt ask you about "the problem that has always been". I asked youwhat will be the response time of the authorities to the point of breach?

6. did I ask you if the distance can be policed humanly? I asked what is the length of the border between Borno and Cameroon?

7. can you show me where I asked you about Iron curtain and Iran?

my question was how many masons does the military have that they will be able to build a fence of such distance?

8. are the masons bullet proof or are they not the from the same military that cannot fight boko haram? simple yes or no

9. did I ask you for "nuance" or asked if there is "heavy security" to cover masons while building the wall, why has that "heavy security" not dealt with the insecurity once and for all?
AFONJACOW(m): 11:42am On Jun 05
I want to laugh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽‍♂️
Babangidapikin: 11:42am On Jun 05
Fencing won't stop the problem...use technologies, stop depending on old school military training of staying inside the sun and doing march es ... Thank God Ukraine has deployed Swarm Technology..Swarm Technology is quite cheaper than a Tank , when you notice terrorist, just deploy and program them to strike anyone with a gun, the precision is 100% accurate, it doesn't miss it's targets ...You need thinking minds in the Army , we asked you people to deploy cluster bombs you na no gree, that enough is enough to put deep fears in their mind. You also need to spend a lot of money on research and development, not the chewing gum type of research they do in the University that don't birth products but theory. I am sure there is a way to manipulate the air around a zone to prevent projectiles from going through that zone
Afonja007: 11:43am On Jun 05
Joke of the century where and where will they start the fencing ? Ban movement of Fulani cattle neighboring countries remove Nigeria from that so called ECOWAS protocol abi wetin dem call am?

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Krismas(m): 11:46am On Jun 05
lexy2014:


off point.

"So many childish questions" and yet you could not answer any of the "childish questions".

1. did I ask you about Israel or Rafah? I asked which AI?

2. I asked you to share with "the plan", you are talking about Rafah crossing. how does Rafah crossing answer my question: can you share with me the plan of the AI to be used to alert the authorities when the wall is breached not "bridged"?

3. don't you know the meaning of the word "prevent"?

will the AI prevent the wall for being breached? simple yes or no

4. in how many operations are the nigerian military presently using AI?

5. I didnt ask you about "the problem that has always been". I asked youwhat will be the response time of the authorities to the point of breach?

6. did I ask you if the distance can be policed humanly? I asked what is the length of the border between Borno and Cameroon?

7. can you show me where I asked you about Iron curtain and Iran?

my question was how many masons does the military have that they will be able to build a fence of such distance?

8. are the masons bullet proof or are they not the from the same military that cannot fight boko haram? simple yes or no

9. did I ask you for "nuance" or asked if there is "heavy security" to cover masons while building the wall, why has that "heavy security" not dealt with the insecurity once and for all?
you are irrelevant
Always asking repititive, dull and daft questions
commoditiesnig: 11:54am On Jun 05
Very good proposition.. I it
lexy2014: 11:56am On Jun 05
Krismas:
you are irrelevant
Always asking repititive, dull and daft questions

and yet you could not answer one of the "repititive, dull and daft questions" instead you are getting emotional?

did I ask you if I am relevant or not?

let us try again:

1. did I ask you about Israel or Rafah? I asked which AI?

2. I asked you to share with "the plan", you are talking about Rafah crossing. how does Rafah crossing answer my question: can you share with me the plan of the AI to be used to alert the authorities when the wall is breached not "bridged"?

3. don't you know the meaning of the word "prevent"?

will the AI prevent the wall for being breached? simple yes or no

4. in how many operations are the nigerian military presently using AI?

5. I didnt ask you about "the problem that has always been". I asked youwhat will be the response time of the authorities to the point of breach?

6. did I ask you if the distance can be policed humanly? I asked what is the length of the border between Borno and Cameroon?

7. can you show me where I asked you about Iron curtain and Iran?

my question was how many masons does the military have that they will be able to build a fence of such distance?

8. are the masons bullet proof or are they not the from the same military that cannot fight boko haram? simple yes or no

9. did I ask you for "nuance" or asked if there is "heavy security" to cover masons while building the wall, why has that "heavy security" not dealt with the insecurity once and for all?
IslamVIRGINS(f): 11:58am On Jun 05
cyberbro:


Such constructions are done my military engineers, if need be they'll add other workers (civilians), but under heavy security protection... But of course, it's still risky...

Very risky! But I'm very sure insecurity can be wiped your completely in Nigeria without fencing the borders within a month if our politicians and military personnel eating from insecurity in Nigeria are ready to give up!
cyberbro(m): 12:02pm On Jun 05
IslamVIRGINS:


Very risky! But I'm very sure insecurity can be wiped your completely in Nigeria without fencing the borders within a month if our politicians and military personnel eating from insecurity in Nigeria are ready to give up!

Hmm 💭
Konquest: 12:12pm On Jun 05
Busy76:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsITaqNg3Nk

Nigeria's Defence Chief, General Christopher Musa, has ignited a major debate by proposing a complete fence along Nigeria's borders with Cameroon, Niger, Chad, and Benin to combat escalating insecurity and the influx of armed groups like Boko Haram and ISWAP.

Citing examples like Pakistan's fence with Afghanistan, he argues this is critical for Nigeria's survival and sovereignty. In this video, we break down this unprecedented proposal, analyzing the reasons behind it, the immense potential costs, logistical challenges, socio-economic impacts, and whether this controversial measure can truly solve Nigeria's deep-rooted security crisis. Is fencing the nation a viable strategy or a sign of desperation?
I've been stating this same thing for years now because in reality, Nigeria has NEVER had standard borders with those 4 countries. Even the British Colonialists never thought of building border walls or fences. Folks just simply walk right into another environment from the Nigerian side and find themselves in another country without any checks and this has been fueling the illegal inflows of foreign Fulani herdsmen and bandits into Nigeria since the early 2000s and the Jihadist invaders from the West African Sahelian countries of Mali, Niger, Chad, Burkina Faso, Northern Cameroon, etc.

First off, the use of stabilized laterite bricks OR adobe bricks for the construction of the border walls will be cheaper since laterite is readily available BUT this time, it will be stabilized with cement.

Second, prisoners from Nigerian correctional centers closer to the border areas can be deployed to those locations to build the border walls and save costs of labor.


Third, the U.S. border walls along the Mexican/U.S. border areas can ALSO be used as a model to measure total costs.

In any event, it's the use of modern satellite tracking systems and advanced attack and surveillance drones that would further complement these proposed border walls which I'm in of and to hell with the ECOWAS protocol on free movement that allows foreign Fulani herdsmen to just walk right into Nigeria and displace indigenous Nigerian ethnic groups from their lands for final occupation using violence. It's totally unacceptable as the Fulanis in the whole of West African countries are just a minority ethnic group of NOT more than 24 million people (unlike the over 80 million each of both Hausas and Yorubas, then the Kanuris, and other indigenous Nigerians combined), so they should NOT be placed on a pedestal by ANYBODY from Nigeria again. The Fula paternal ancestry is even from the Berbers of Morocco in North Africa based off of advanced DNA test results we have today. All Fulanis have Umayyad Berber ancestry and NOT indigenous to Nigeria. Period.

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