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GloriousGbola: 9:13am On Mar 25
basilico:

Of course I agree. This to me is not a random mistake. There is a backstory that's not been exposed .
That's my opinion , I may be wrong

the backstory is obvious

these clowns did not want an official record.

it is that simple

today engineers in nigeria run and coordinate multiple projects off whatsapp groups

there is just one problem with this. whatsapp is not a corporate messaging service. and there is no way of integrating it to date

so records of conversations are not available

it is even debatable as to whether one can it whatsapp convos if shit goes sideways

can an instruction given on whatsapp count as a legal instruction?

back then i tried to see how we could use apps taht were designed for this - but it went nowhere

on a whatsapp group people can add others without asking you unless you lock it down. you can be hacked. if my memory serves, it was through whatsapp that MBS hacked jeff bezos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos_phone_hacking_incident

In January 2020, the FTI Consulting company claimed that in May 2018 with "medium to high confidence" the phone of Jeff Bezos had been hacked by a file sent from the WhatsApp of the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman.[1][2] The Saudi Arabian embassy to the United States has denied the allegations.[3] Billionaire Jeff Bezos, the owner of The Washington Post newspaper and founder of the company Amazon, engaged FTI Consulting in February 2019 after the National Enquirer reported details of Bezos's affair in January 2019.[4] FTI Consulting did not link the National Enquirer to the hack.[4] In December 2021, the FBI stated they could not find proof to substantiate claims that Saudi Arabia hacked Jeff Bezos's phone, and has considered an investigation into those allegations a low priority

now you have a bunch of clowns running americas miliary policy off an insecure app. i will not be surprised if they have already been hacked to by multiple non state actors and someone leaked this to stop it before these clowns actually get people killed

this is enigma levels of fuckery right here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

Although Nazi introduced a series of improvements to the Enigma over the years that hampered decryption efforts, they did not prevent Poland from cracking the machine as early as December 1932 and reading messages prior to and into the war. Poland's sharing of their achievements enabled the Allies to exploit Enigma-enciphered messages as a major source of intelligence.[2] Many commentators say the flow of Ultra communications intelligence from the decrypting of Enigma, Lorenz, and other ciphers shortened the war substantially and may even have altered its outcome.[3]

MAGA!!!
now take this and multiply it. this is what happens when obsequiousness [if you believe vance is loyal, you are on a long thing] is the sole driver for engagement in this istration

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basilico: 9:24am On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:


i am sure you think he and his gang of teeny bopper are supposed to be involved in national security

dangote is the richest man in africa - but even a third world country has leaders with enough sense to keep businessmen with their personal agenda out of government

i guess this logic is way above your pay grade - as a maga matter

don't try to deflect from reality while waiting for the masters from your echo chamber tell you how to spin this. you have been flailing around for the past three hours trying to deny this happened. don't worry - i can read out your instructions . it is not a big deal. America biggest country in the world. doesn’t matter.

now start parroting that instead of humping the nuts of leon musk
Recently media went wild with a leak that said Elon Musk was at the Pentagon to be briefed on how Trump was planning to bomb the Chinese cities of Guangzhou, Beijing, Peking and Shanghai with 15 MegaTon hydrogen bombs.
Turns out he was only there in the contract award to Boeing of building the 6th Generation fighter F-47. Obviously he would be there if Starlink would be part of it's encrypted communication system.

Pentagon announced on Friday they would be investigating leaks. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-announces-investigation-leaks-which-could-include-polygraph-tests

The Pentagon said it would investigate what it claims are leaks of national security information, saying that the probes could include polygraph tests for employees in the Defense Department......

Note the day. On Friday.. Before Jerry Goldberg's thunderbolt from the sky .
Now you are free to use your head.
cococandy copied in.
GloriousGbola: 9:46am On Mar 25
basilico:


The Pentagon said it would investigate what it claims are leaks of national security information, saying that the probes could include polygraph tests for employees in the Defense Department......


polygraph tests have long been discredited as un reliable

this is a direct soundbite from your movie president - made for the rubes to swallow. how soon before they move to actual waterboarding?

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basilico: 9:51am On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:


the backstory is obvious

these clowns did not want an official record.

it is that simple

today engineers in nigeria run and coordinate multiple projects off whatsapp groups

there is just one problem with this. whatsapp is not a corporate messaging service. and there is no way of integrating it to date

so records of conversations are not available

it is even debatable as to whether one can it whatsapp convos if shit goes sideways

can an instruction given on whatsapp count as a legal instruction?

back then i tried to see how we could use apps taht were designed for this - but it went nowhere

on a whatsapp group people can add others without asking you unless you lock it down. you can be hacked. if my memory serves, it was through whatsapp that MBS hacked jeff bezos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos_phone_hacking_incident



now you have a bunch of clowns running americas miliary policy off an insecure app. i will not be surprised if they have already been hacked to by multiple non state actors and someone leaked this to stop it before these clowns actually get people killed

this is enigma levels of fuckery right here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine



MAGA!!!
now take this and multiply it. this is what happens when obsequiousness [if you believe vance is loyal, you are on a long thing] is the sole driver for engagement in this istration



Let's say it's very easy for a compromised Signal staff to tap into every conversation.
It's not the way to transact business , that I already said.
Every chat, DM, Text, call record is saved somewhere by the providers .. Mostly incase of backups and govt regulations. Some telcos are required to keep 7 years of texts preserved. Text messages are usually small, I know telcos do their own backups , but still hire independent providers to keep a backup of every SMS sent to and fro for a period of years. In other words there are third parties or contractors who have access to these encrypted chats. They also record calls of specific people if so authorized.
GloriousGbola: 9:58am On Mar 25
basilico:


Let's say it's very easy for a compromised Signal staff to tap into every conversation.
It's not the way to transact business , that I already said.
Every chat, DM, Text, call record is saved somewhere by the providers .. Mostly incase of backups and govt regulations. Some telcos are required to keep 7 years of texts preserved. Text messages are usually small, I know telcos do their own backups , but still hire independent providers to keep a backup of every SMS sent to and fro for a period of years. In other words there are third parties or contractors who have access to these encrypted chats. They also record calls of specific people if so authorized.

you are talking absolute bs as usual

the attraction of these apps is they are end to end encrypted [when they are not hacked]

only the s can save records. there is no central database. i am responsbile for backing my chats, not whatsapp /facebook

if you are in a meeting on an app like Ms teams - there is an official record within company archives. a chat on WhatsApp only has the record if a choses to save it. and a can tweak the saved record

this is SOP for your heroes. they dont want any record of their fuckery so they can deny down the line when it all goes sideways

it is not a bug, it is a feature of a gang of corrupt, incompetent, inexperienced dui clowns

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ono(m): 10:11am On Mar 25
Hegseth has come out boldly to deny any convo on signal.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth Responds to Atlantic Report: ‘Nobody Was Texting War Plans’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/24/defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-responds-atlantic-report-nobody-texting-war-plans/

That should calm people with TDS down.
basilico: 10:21am On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:


polygraph tests have long been discredited as un reliable

this is a direct soundbite from your movie president - made for the rubes to swallow. how soon before they move to actual waterboarding?

They are discredited. Yet they believed that Kavanaugh acc polygraph test, who was a psychology professor and had once instructed someone how to beat a polygraph.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kavanaugh-acc-christine-ford-releases-results-of-polygraph-test-but-key-detail-appears-to-contradict-past-statements
basilico: 10:52am On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:


you are talking absolute bs as usual

the attraction of these apps is they are end to end encrypted [when they are not hacked]

only the s can save records. there is no central database. i am responsbile for backing my chats, not whatsapp /facebook

if you are in a meeting on an app like Ms teams - there is an official record within company archives. a chat on WhatsApp only has the record if a choses to save it. and a can tweak the saved record

this is SOP for your heroes. they dont want any record of their fuckery so they can deny down the line when it all goes sideways

it is not a bug, it is a feature of a gang of corrupt, incompetent, inexperienced dui clowns

You didn't notice that I used the word 'telco" ,SMS and call records.

On WhatsApp or telegram. You think a staffer can't hack you. You can setup Whatsapp on a desktop that will be simultaneously receiving every message sent to you. Does Whatsapp tell you how many devices are online on your ?
Keep that mind as we await more details. Keep Friday in mind also, the day a memo was sent out about rooting out leakers.
In the meantime throw mud at Hegseth in order to discredit him.
Ono already has it that no war plans were discussed.
basilico: 10:56am On Mar 25
ono:
Hegseth has come out boldly to deny any convo on signal.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth Responds to Atlantic Report: ‘Nobody Was Texting War Plans’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/24/defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-responds-atlantic-report-nobody-texting-war-plans/

That should calm people with TDS down.
Methinks it has something to do with protecting the leakers. A red herring.As long as Jerry was in on the chat ,he can claim that anything was discussed, including how to fund transgender mice in India. It's already bad enough there was Jerry in on the chat.

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GloriousGbola: 10:58am On Mar 25
basilico:


You didn't notice that I used the word 'telco".
On WhatsApp or telegram. You think a staffer can't hack you. You can setup Whatsapp on a desktop that will be simultaneously receiving every message sent to you. Does Whatsapp tell you how many devices are online on your ?
Keep that mind as we await more details. Keep Friday in mind also, the day a memo was sent out about rooting out leakers.
I'm the meantime throw mud at Hegseth in order to discredit him.
Ono already has it that no war plans were discussed.

i see you have already received your marching orders cheesy cheesy cheesy

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ono(m): 11:21am On Mar 25
basilico:

Methinks it has something to do with protecting the leakers. A red herring.As long as Jerry was in on the chat ,he can claim that anything was discussed, including how to fund transgender mice in India. It's already bad enough there was Jerry in on the chat.

lol - transgender mice…hehehe

Excerpt:

Hegseth also said regarding Goldberg: “You’re talking about a deceitful and highly discredited, so called journalist who’s made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again, to include the, I don’t know, the hoaxes of Russia, Russia, Russia, or the fine people on both sides, hoax, or suckers and losers hoax.”

“This is the guy that pedals in garbage. This is what he does,” Hegseth added.

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basilico: 11:35am On Mar 25
CNN reported that Kash Patel as acting Head of ATF was cutting it's staff, moving 1000 to FBI.

This story in it's entirety is completely fake and made-up.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/fbi-director-kash-patel-sends-memo-calling-cnn-report-atf-cuts-entirely-false

Fake news media again . Why didn't they call his office to confirm.
I honestly hope it's a suspected leaker who was fed that BS then ran off to fake news CNN.
basilico: 11:40am On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:


i see you have already received your marching orders cheesy cheesy cheesy

That leaves a backdoor you fool.
Do you know that Telegram founder had been asked by to give them backdoor access to Telegram but he refused. They indicted him instead for the scams found on telegram.
In other words it's possible. A rogue staffer is all it takes.
Find out the biggest concern at the WEF last week.It was to prevent misinformation, disinformation, malformation, deformation , degradation, oxidation etc. How you think they want this to happen.
basilico: 11:57am On Mar 25
Maeve7:


Today’s scandal is on the front page of every news outlet. Focus Basilico, focus. cheesy

Your side is not better. Lock him up!
That's how it goes. Media amplifies this hoping Hegseth will go yet it was Waltz who "sent the group invite".
GloriousGbola: 11:58am On Mar 25
basilico:


That leaves a backdoor you fool.
Do you know that Telegram founder had been asked by to give them backdoor access to Telegram but he refused. So they indicted him instead.
In other words it's possible. A rogue staffer is all it takes.
Find out the biggest concern at the WEF last week.It was to prevent misinformation, disinformation, malformation, etc. How you think they want this to happen.


This is why you are the clown dunce of this platform

Repeating what any real techie not a pretentious poser knows

simply chose to follow official channels

Mbs had bezos WhatsApp hacked
Same Mbs compromised employees in twitter to get info on dissidents
North Korea has been hacking everyone right left and center

I know you are an ignoramus so you don't know that enigma was the encryption used by the Germans during ww2. They thought it was unbreakable. But it had already been broken and the allies were intercepting German messages throughout ww2

The jokers you lionize so much are already being hacked. If a journalist could get this you think Nk or Russian hackers can't?

Do you even know that ceos in naija regularly hack devices of some of their employees?

But since this is amateur hour let's have at it. The US is fully on course to become part of an axis of one, and these blunders will all be in the history books.

Can you imagine if Obama had planned the takedown of bin laden on a messaging app? It would likely have been a black hawk down type debacle with the seals captured and killed

Welcome to maga. The enthronement of confident incompetence

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bemeruca: 12:15pm On Mar 25
basilico:

That's how it goes. Media amplifies this hoping Hegseth will go yet it was Waltz who "sent the group invite".

I said it's a deliberate leak to the press. I don't understand how the guys from the other side don't see this.

It's simply to send a message that Europe is free-loading on the US, a useless continent killing itself
Maeve7: 12:21pm On Mar 25
basilico:

That's how it goes. Media amplifies this hoping Hegseth will go yet it was Waltz who "sent the group invite".

They should have ALL known better what to post and what not to post. No excuses, please.

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basilico: 12:23pm On Mar 25
bemeruca:


I said it's a deliberate leak to the press. I don't understand how the guys from the other side don't see this.

It's simply to send a message that Europe is free-loading on the US, a useless continent killing itself

Exactly that's what thinking wrt Europe.
When you get an email not meant for you, immediately most people delete Or a text, you simply reply ask whether it's a mistake..
But this guy got added on 13th , continued reading messages he knew he shouldn't have , then published the info. Who does that?
Which predictably has raised a storm with democrats pouncing on Hegseth specifically.
basilico: 12:26pm On Mar 25
Maeve7:


They should have ALL known better what to post and what not to post. No excuses, please.

True, so what happens. An investigation by democrats or Hegseth resigns.
Never mind that they are not bothered by the attacks , the reasons ..
bemeruca: 12:30pm On Mar 25
basilico:


Exactly that's what thinking wrt Europe.
When you get an email not meant for you, immediately most people delete Or a text, you simply reply ask whether it's a mistake..
But this guy got added on 13th , continued reading messages he knew he shouldn't have , then published the info. Who does that?
Which predictably has raised a storm with democrats pouncing on Hegseth specifically.

Since he is a journalist he has no obligation to close his eyes.

But it is the same media who praise General Milley for leaking to the c saying he will inform them if the US is to attack as heroic now the are shouting Hegseth

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Maeve7: 12:31pm On Mar 25
basilico:


True, so what happens. An investigation by democrats or Hegseth resigns.
Never mind that they are not bothered by the attacks , the reasons ..

It will be business as usual. There are no consequences for Trump and his minions.

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Maeve7: 12:34pm On Mar 25
basilico:


Exactly that's what thinking wrt Europe.
When you get an email not meant for you, immediately most people delete Or a text, you simply reply ask whether it's a mistake..
But this guy got added on 13th , continued reading messages he knew he shouldn't have , then published the info. Who does that?
Which predictably has raised a storm with democrats pouncing on Hegseth specifically.

It’s very rich for a Trump er to hold people able to any moral standards. grin

A journalist does that and you should be grateful he is exposing incompetent politicians. That’s his job.

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basilico: 12:40pm On Mar 25
Maeve7:


It’s very rich for a Trump er to hold people able to any moral standards. grin

A journalist does that and you should be grateful he is exposing incompetent politicians. That’s his job.

What if they were discussing how Obama spied on Trump. Or how Joe Biden was rudderless and clueless
You think he would have reported?
bemeruca: 2:08pm On Mar 25
Yunseo Chung, a 21-year-old Columbia University junior and legal permanent resident from South Korea, faces deportation proceedings initiated by ICE after her arrest on March 5, 2025, during a pro-Palestinian protest at Barnard College.

Charged with obstructing governmental istration, she was targeted by ICE, which claims her permanent resident status is being "revoked" due to "concerning conduct" in a "pro-Hamas protest." Her lawyers dispute this, arguing only an immigration judge can revoke her green card and that the Trump istration is retaliating against her First Amendment-protected speech. On March 24, 2025, she sued top officials to block ICE’s actions. Her whereabouts are unknown, but she remains in the U.S. as her case continues.

Yunseo Chung has been in the United States for approximately 15 years. She moved from South Korea with her family at the age of 7
raumdeuter: 2:11pm On Mar 25
https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1904298419805688272

The US Dept Agriculture cancelled a $300k contracts on Educating food justice and food equality for queer and transgender farmers in San Francisco and New York

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Maeve7: 2:42pm On Mar 25
basilico:


What if they were discussing how Obama spied on Trump. Or how Joe Biden was rudderless and clueless
You think he would have reported?

What if horses could fly. Irrelevant.

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bemeruca: 2:58pm On Mar 25
The UK, A country that stood up to Nazi is now a Nazi country.
JD vance was right, the EU is crap
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1903699746864152585

IjeBos(m): 3:01pm On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:


Those were the known people on the chat. How many bad actors were there on a unsecured app?

Exactly.
And one of the chat was using his cell phone on this chat while in fuxing Russia of all places.
Holy shit.

100% Russia had the chat info.
They bug everything.

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budaatum: 3:07pm On Mar 25
GloriousGbola:
This is why you are the clown dunce of this platform.

I can't understand why you are letting him clown your time on this issue.

Just heard him on C-Span dribbling around every fact presented to him claiming he has to be convinced.

I'm like, "who gives a flying fuq convincing basilico who sticks his head in mules2000"?

C-Span agreed and cut him off.
IjeBos(m): 3:18pm On Mar 25
basilico:


Exactly that's what thinking wrt Europe.
When you get an email not meant for you, immediately most people delete Or a text, you simply reply ask whether it's a mistake..
But this guy got added on 13th , continued reading messages he knew he shouldn't have , then published the info. Who does that?
Which predictably has raised a storm with democrats pouncing on Hegseth specifically.

You've written about 20 posts on this trying to gaslight.

1.) The guy Bemeruca (too dumb to think of that himself) got that conspiracy theory from, already debunked his own conspiracy theory about a purposeful effort to get a message to Europe.

2.) Because it is illegal on it's face to speak about classified info in an unclassified space. In any other White House the DOJ would have opened up an investigation already to figure out what sources and methods may have been compromised. One of the was texting from Russia where he was having a meeting. Russia tries to hack everything and the assumption there is your device is compromised.

3.) Despite what Hegseth said, the White House has already confirmed this happened. It's not a he said she said story. It happened. Who you may think Goldberg is has no bearing on what he reported as it has been confirmed.

4.) Again, it doesn't matter who set up the chat or who accidentally added Hegseth, everybody in that chat knew what they were doing was wrong, most likely illegal and very reckless.
The people who were supposed to safeguard American secrets all were overly reckless with it.
In any other istration they would resign. They should resign,be investigated and be prosecuted.

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basilico: 3:36pm On Mar 25
Maeve7:


What if horses could fly. Irrelevant.

Jerry Goldberg is a hack.
He wrote the piece about Trump refusing to nisit the graves of war heroes in . Trump didn't attend because of the weather, they didn't want a traffic snafl up at short notice . Goldberg accused Trump of calling the soldiers losers or something like that. Totally fake story which in China would have sent him to the gallows.

In 2024 Goldberg said Trump got curious about paying $60k for a soldiers funeral
Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f***ing Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!”

Later Jerry Goldberg said " President Donald Trump never said that. This is an outrageous lie from The Atlantic two weeks before the election."

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I don’t appreciate how you are exploiting my sister’s death for politics- hurtful & disrespectful to the important changes she made for service . President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to my family & Vanessa. In fact, I voted for President Trump today.

You are believing a crazy

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budaatum: 3:39pm On Mar 25
"Its like accidentally sending a text meant for your side chick to your wife". Apparently.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_GiH-Sg_Dc?si=sV9zRtQM9H8KbPLW

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