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Science and faith have often been seen as opposing forces, but many argue they can coexist. Science relies on empirical evidence and testable theories, while faith is based on belief and spirituality.

Some people see them as complementary—science explains the how of the universe, while faith addresses the why. For example, someone can believe in evolution while also believing that a higher power set everything in motion. Others argue that faith can inspire scientific inquiry, as many historical scientists were deeply religious.

On the flip side, some say science and faith are fundamentally incompatible because science demands proof, while faith requires belief without evidence. What do you think? Can they work together, or are they at odds? Can science and faith coexist?

Let's know you POV
No harsh word please

When Christ is written to have said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened", some of us hear him say, "use your senses to enquire", which is the definition of 'do science'.

We can also clearly see the evidence of Eve using her senses to enquire if she shall die if she ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, only to find it good for opening eyes and for gaining wisdom, which helped free herself and her more ignorant non-sense using Adam from naked slavery from whence they became self employed and populated the entire earth, we read.

Science is what you do when you build your house on a rock, while faith without science is like building on sand. Do note that science can increase faith. If I do my research well instead of merely believing without enquiring with my senses, my ignorant faith would be subject to the vagaries of the weather.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu5bBDRpzPM?si=bC8FCzXnzaqk0GbT

No science without faith and no faith without science both compliments each other only lawless and rebellious humans wants to separate the two!

Faith has been defined as the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

So you can't call something "FAITH" if you refuse to WORK towards it {James 2:18-26} and it's the process by which you achieve it that is called SCIENCE.

Take for insurance the Wright Brothers who invented the aeroplane, have they seen a flying vessel carrying engers before?
NO!
So what made them believe that this is possible?
"FAITH"
That's why they began WORKING towards its success but today ask an atheist how the aeroplane came about he will start talking about the step by step process the inventor followed instead of inventing another thing to prove that there is no FAITH backing SCIENCE!

Is like asking if Garri and Semo can co exist.

Clearly, it depends on the or s

SadEast419:
Science and faith have often been seen as opposing forces, but many argue they can coexist. Science relies on empirical evidence and testable theories, while faith is based on belief and spirituality.

Some people see them as complementary—science explains the how of the universe, while faith addresses the why. For example, someone can believe in evolution while also believing that a higher power set everything in motion. Others argue that faith can inspire scientific inquiry, as many historical scientists were deeply religious.

On the flip side, some say science and faith are fundamentally incompatible because science demands proof, while faith requires belief without evidence. What do you think? Can they work together, or are they at odds? Can science and faith coexist?

First science means "To know" while

faith is the use of knowledge.

But shallow people just brainlessly recite the shallow popular definitions.

Secondly, Proof and evidence and demand for proofs and are all matters under Law and not under science but many so called atheists are foolishly ignorant of this.

Thirdly, belief has nothing to do with Truth and Real eyeity for in Rufai Oseni's mind, he can believe today that Peter Obi is the president of Nigeria. And tomorrow it may be Trump. But that is his belief and belief is personal subject to a person's whim and control. So it is not a standard of measurement of Truth.

Dtruthspeaker:


First science means "To know" while

faith is the use of knowledge.

But shallow people just brainlessly recite the shallow popular definitions.

Secondly, Proof and evidence and demand for proofs and are all matters under Law and not under science but many so called atheists are foolishly ignorant of this.

Thirdly, belief has nothing to do with Truth and Real eyeity for in Rufai Oseni's mind, he can believe today that Peter Obi is the president of Nigeria. And tomorrow it may be Trump. But that is his belief and belief is personal subject to a person's whim and control. So it is not a standard of measurement of Truth.

The irony of you calling someone brainless😄. I literally lol'd, pot meet kettle.

Lucifyre:

The irony of you calling someone brainless😄. I literally lol'd, pot meet kettle.

That would be you confirming that you the pot. 😁

Dtruthspeaker:


That would be you confirming that you the pot. 😁

As our resident retard its no suprise a simple idiom still can't turn the rusted gears in your head.

Lucifyre:


As our resident retard its no suprise a simple idiom still can't turn the rusted gears in your head.

Clearly you are describing yourself.

You’re making some strong distinctions here, and I see where you're coming from. Science, in its purest form, is about acquiring knowledge, while faith—depending on how one defines it—can be seen as applying or interpreting that knowledge within a personal or spiritual framework.

Your point about proof and evidence being legal concepts rather than purely scientific ones is interesting. Science doesn’t "prove" things in an absolute sense but builds models based on observation, experimentation, and repeatability. Atheists who demand "proof" of God might be thinking in legal or mathematical rather than scientific ones, which is an interesting philosophical misalignment.

And belief—yes, it’s personal and can change based on perception, which is why it isn’t necessarily a measure of truth. Truth, in a scientific sense, is about what is consistently observable and testable, while in a philosophical or theological sense, it might be about ultimate reality beyond human perception.

So where do you stand? Do you think science and faith should be completely separate, or do they have a meaningful intersection? I love it when I encounter high intelligent people.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is like asking if Garri and Semo can co exist.

Clearly, it depends on the or s

Hmmm so you're saying someone who strongly believe in religion tends to find science as a lie?

MaxInDHouse:
No science without faith and no faith without science both compliments each other only lawless and rebellious humans wants to separate the two!

Faith has been defined as the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

So you can't call something "FAITH" if you refuse to WORK towards it {James 2:18-26} and it's the process by which you achieve it that is called SCIENCE.

Take for insurance the Wright Brothers who invented the aeroplane, have they seen a flying vessel carrying engers before?
NO!
So what made them believe that this is possible?
"FAITH"
That's why they began WORKING towards its success but today ask an atheist how the aeroplane came about he will start talking about the step by step process the inventor followed instead of inventing another thing to prove that there is no FAITH backing SCIENCE!

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Interesting point, but if faith is needed for science, then why do many scientific discoveries contradict religious beliefs? For example, many religious traditions rejected evolution and heliocentrism at first. If faith and science always work together, why do they sometimes clash? P.S faith is believing in something that seems not to exist. Something you can't see

SadEast419:
Hmmm so you're saying someone who strongly believe in religion tends to find science as a lie?

Nope.

I am saying any reasonable and right thinking person can see that whatever is called science has it's due place and whatever is called religion has it's purposes.

But like atheists Lucifyre has come to show most people are not right thinking and being reasonable is a task too difficult for them.

SadEast419:
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Interesting point, but if faith is needed for science, then why do many scientific discoveries contradict religious beliefs? For example, many religious traditions rejected evolution and heliocentrism at first. If faith and science always work together, why do they sometimes clash? P.S faith is believing in something that seems not to exist. Something you can't see

Have you forgotten Psquare? Even twins do not always agree

SadEast419:
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Interesting point, but if faith is needed for science, then why do many scientific discoveries contradict religious beliefs? For example, many religious traditions rejected evolution and heliocentrism at first. If faith and science always work together, why do they sometimes clash? P.S faith is believing in something that seems not to exist. Something you can't see

Highlighted is a wrong definition!

Nothing exists to humans until they are able to provide step to step process how it happened so as long as they don't know they will turn a blind eye on it.
But when they know how to go about it they will call it SCIENCE. Whereas it takes great faith to figure many things we are using today because if you ask people few centuries ago they will tell you it's impossible yet we are using these things today!

Dtruthspeaker:


Nope.

I am saying any reasonable and right thinking person can see that whatever is called science has it's due place and whatever is called religion has it's purposes.

But like atheists Lucifyre has come to show most people are not right thinking and being reasonable is a task too difficult for them.

😅 Didn't know i'm an atheist.

SadEast419:
➜Science and faith have often been seen as opposing forces, but many argue they can coexist. Science relies on empirical evidence and testable theories, while faith is based on belief and spirituality.
Some people see them as complementary—science explains the how of the universe, while faith addresses the why. For example, someone can believe in evolution while also believing that a higher power set everything in motion. Others argue that faith can inspire scientific inquiry, as many historical scientists were deeply religious.
On the flip side, some say science and faith are fundamentally incompatible because science demands proof, while faith requires belief without evidence. What do you think? Can they work together, or are they at odds? Can science and faith coexist?

I don't believe science and religion can rationally coexist mainly because religion is built on a foundation of contradictions. How can an arm of human knowledge that builds on facts be said to be complementary to ideas that build on falsehoods/contradictions? How or where does this complementary connection begin or end?

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe science and religion faith can rationally coexist mainly because religion is built on a foundation of contradictions. How can an arm of human knowledge that builds on facts be said to be complementary to ideas that build on falsehoods/contradictions? How or where does this complementary connection begin or end?

It's not science against religion but faith and science!

SadEast419:
➜So where do you stand? Do you think science and faith religion should be completely separate, or do they have a meaningful intersection? I love it when I encounter high intelligent people.

How or...

SadEast419:
➜...Science, in its purest form, is about acquiring knowledge, while faith religion—depending on how one defines it—can be seen as applying or interpreting that knowledge within a personal or spiritual framework.
➜...Science doesn’t "prove" things in an absolute sense but builds models based on observation, experimentation, and repeatability...
➜And belief—yes, it’s personal and can change based on perception, which is why it isn’t necessarily a measure of truth. Truth, in a scientific sense, is about what is consistently observable and testable, while in a philosophical or theological sense, it might be about ultimate reality beyond human perception.

...where does one begin locating the intersection between that which is wholly non-personal and that which is completely personal?

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe science and religion can rationally coexist mainly because religion is built on a foundation of contradictions. How can an arm of human knowledge that builds on facts be said to be complementary to ideas that build on falsehoods/contradictions? How or where does this complementary connection begin or end?

Nonsense
I don't blame you
Only true Christian on planet earth

Aemmyjah:

Nonsense
I don't blame you
Only true Christian on planet earth

This one doesn't even know the difference between RELIGION and FAITH to her faith has made you a religionists when a patient who swallowed a dozen of pills prescribed by a doctor has already shown his FAITH In the medicine!

MaxInDHouse:


This one doesn't even know the difference between RELIGION and FAITH to her faith has made you a religionists when a patient who swallowed a dozen of pills prescribed by a doctor has already shown his FAITH In the medicine!

Kobojunkie is one highly delusional person

Aemmyjah:

Kobojunkie is one highly delusional person

That's true!

OP is talking about FAITH and SCIENCE but Kobo changed it to SCIENCE and RELIGION because she doesn't know any single thing to say about FAITH but she can talk and talk and talk about RELIGION as that's what is visible to her!

MaxInDHouse:


Highlighted is a wrong definition!

Nothing exists to humans until they are able to provide step to step process how it happened so as long as they don't know they will turn a blind eye on it.
But when they know how to go about it they will call it SCIENCE. Whereas it takes great faith to figure many things we are using today because if you ask people few centuries ago they will tell you it's impossible yet we are using these things today!

I get your point, but isn't there a difference between faith and educated guesswork? The Wright brothers didn't just randomly believe they could fly—they studied physics, tested designs, and refined their work based on observations. Science isn't about blind faith; it's about trial, error, and evidence. Would you still call that faith, or is it just determination and knowledge?

Dtruthspeaker:


Nope.

I am saying any reasonable and right thinking person can see that whatever is called science has it's due place and whatever is called religion has it's purposes.

But like atheists Lucifyre has come to show most people are not right thinking and being reasonable is a task too difficult for them.

Do you think atheists reject reason, or do they just prioritize scientific explanations over faith-based ones? Some of history’s greatest thinkers—Einstein, Darwin, Hawking—were either agnostic or atheist, yet they made major contributions to human knowledge. They are less driven by faith. All I need to know if faith and science can coexist.

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe science and religion can rationally coexist mainly because religion is built on a foundation of contradictions. How can an arm of human knowledge that builds on facts be said to be complementary to ideas that build on falsehoods/contradictions? How or where does this complementary connection begin or end?

Are you assuming that all religious beliefs are built on contradictions? Many religious scholars throughout history have engaged deeply with philosophy and reason. Could it be that some contradictions come from misunderstandings or misinterpretations rather than flaws in religion itself?

SadEast419:
➜Are you assuming that all religious beliefs are built on contradictions?
➜Many religious scholars throughout history have engaged deeply with philosophy and reason.
➜Could it be that some contradictions come from misunderstandings or misinterpretations rather than flaws in religion itself?

1. Not assuming. Religion is typically established through the words—opinions of individuals — of men, words that are for the most part personal as you previously pointed out.

2. And many of those same religious scholars have come up with, for the most part, deeply contradictory ideas to describe many of the same entities.

3. But religion is itself founded on those very misunderstandings and misinterpretations — the flaws you refer to.

SadEast419:
Science and faith have often been seen as opposing forces, but many argue they can coexist. Science relies on empirical evidence and testable theories, while faith is based on belief and spirituality.

Some people see them as complementary—science explains the how of the universe, while faith addresses the why. For example, someone can believe in evolution while also believing that a higher power set everything in motion. Others argue that faith can inspire scientific inquiry, as many historical scientists were deeply religious

On the flip side, some say science and faith are fundamentally incompatible because science demands proof, while faith requires belief without evidence. What do you think? Can they work together, or are they at odds? Can science and faith coexist?

How can something based off belief and make-believe inspire something tangible and solid like science? How? These theists are clowns

SadEast419:
I get your point, but isn't there a difference between faith and educated guesswork? The Wright brothers didn't just randomly believe they could fly—they studied physics, tested designs, and refined their work based on observations. Science isn't about blind faith; it's about trial, error, and evidence. Would you still call that faith, or is it just determination and knowledge?

The highlighted is exactly what FAITH is!

Winners don't quit and quiters don't win FAITH is not blind you have to study your environment and people around you before you start working towards something.
You said the Wright Brothers studied physics, tested designs and refined their work all these amounts to never quitting.
Now read what the Bible says about faith in God and let's see if it's the same:

My son, if you accept my sayings And treasure up my commandments, By making your ear attentive to wisdom And inclining your heart to discernment; Moreover, if you call out for understanding And raise your voice for discernment; If you keep seeking for it as for silver, And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures; Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah, And you will find the knowledge of God. Proverbs 2:1-5

The aim of the believer is to find the knowledge of God or let's say figure out if God truly exists.
The first step is reading God's laws, then studying how it applies to humans around you, then ask questions to know what the laws is achieving within faithful adherents, you mustn't give up (keep seeking for it as sliver and searching for it as for hidden treasures) then you will see with your mind's eyes that truly God exists.

The problem with most people is lack of faith in what they're pursuing so they give up half way then start looking for who to blame.

The Wright Brothers never did that but keep on working towards their dreams as they put everything they could lay their hands on to good use.

That is real FAITH!

jaephoenix:

How can something based off belief and make-believe inspire something tangible and solid like science? How? These theists are clowns

Olódo!
Dullard!

Below is the definition of SCIENCE:


*A particular discipline or branch of knowledge that is natural, measurable or consisting of systematic principles rather than intuition or technical skill.

*Knowledge gained through study or practice; mastery of a particular discipline or area.

*The fact of knowing something; knowledge or understanding of a truth.

*The collective discipline of study or learning acquired through the scientific method; the sum of knowledge gained from such methods and discipline.

*Knowledge derived from scientific disciplines, scientific method, or any systematic effort.

FAITH according to God's word is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

Oya Mr atheist tell us how FAITH and SCIENCE negates each other!

SadEast419:
Do you think atheists reject reason, or do they just prioritize scientific explanations over faith-based ones? Some of history’s greatest thinkers—Einstein, Darwin, Hawking—were either agnostic or atheist, yet they made major contributions to human knowledge. They are less driven by faith. All I need to know if faith and science can coexist.

Yes, they reject any thing which destroys and upsets their standing in atheism whether reasonable or scientific.

Making contributions to human knowledge has nothing to do with being a Christian or an atheist exactly how being a Nigerian or a Russian has nothing to do with making a contribution to humanity.

Thus, on your understanding of what faith is, can faith and science co exist?

Yes they already do, for it is by faith and believe that you used to enter a plane (science) to fly from Lagos to Toronto the first time for you have never flown before and if you look out the window of the plane, you would not see the "road" to Toronto. But you just believed that the driver, whom by the way you do not even know, will go through that blue or grey sky of nothingness to take you to a place you have never been to before.

That is clearly an example of faith and science working together.